Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:28 pm
My sin is greater: I occasionally enjoy “A tale of two women” from BLUE. In private, of course.
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Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:12 am
Is this a bastard album?
it fucking rips.
Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:18 am
I wouldn't say so, but it's definitely underrated. I reckon Pandemonium is the bastard child amongst KJ albums.
Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:40 am
I would argue that ...And The Horse They Rode In On is more of a true bastard album than Hang Time, but I'm with you on its awesomeness.motorbike guy wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:43 pm Soul Asylum - Hang Time
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i cant quit this record. i'm a sap. great major label debut. if Randall can like Air Supply, this is fucking genius.
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Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:53 am
Just mentioned it in the 'Swing and a Miss' thread, but also speaking up for Napalm Death's Diatribes here. It came out after Fear, Emptiness, Despair, which took a hiding for its style at the time, but I loved it and also think it has aged very well.
Diatribes landed amongst the high watermark of what some of these parts have christened 'mersh metal', and while it stood up favourably to a lot of output of the time, fact is this was not a time to be British and peddling what sounded transatlantic.
The lead single Greed Killing felt derivative even then, which probably did the album no favours overall, but from front-to-back it's actually an interesting effort, and I'm far more likely to reach for it now than much of its peers.
Diatribes landed amongst the high watermark of what some of these parts have christened 'mersh metal', and while it stood up favourably to a lot of output of the time, fact is this was not a time to be British and peddling what sounded transatlantic.
The lead single Greed Killing felt derivative even then, which probably did the album no favours overall, but from front-to-back it's actually an interesting effort, and I'm far more likely to reach for it now than much of its peers.
Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:39 am
FOTL - How to Stop Your Brain in an Accident
French Lessons is probably one of the greatest love songs ever written. I love this record to death.
French Lessons is probably one of the greatest love songs ever written. I love this record to death.
Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:15 pm
Dead Man's Pop isn't a remastered version of Don't Tell A Soul -- it was the band's original mix for the album, before the label handed it over to Chris Lord-Alge, who applied many layers of digital murk over it. The cleaner original mix makes it sound like a completely different and much more enjoyable album. The songs and performances come to life rather than sounding sluggish and weighed down, and while it's more polite than Tim or Pleased to Meet Me, it sounds like a Replacements album, which (to me) Don't Tell A Soul never did. Seriously, it's well worth a listen.Krev wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:04 am Have you listened to Dead Man's Pop? It's on my should-check-out list, but I'm having a hard time building up the gumption to listen to a remastered album that was originally marginal. Pleased To Meet Me was the best post-Bob record the Mats put out, everything else was just Paul solo album material. I totally own my bias, I think Stink and Sorry Ma...are both masterpieces.
Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:50 am
Judging by the band's set lists over the last few tours, they've decided that the 2 self titled albums, Pandemonium and Night Time are where the strongest material is to be found - I'd argue it's the melodic and melancholic Joke (Brighter than a Thousand Suns and Democracy) that often get unfairly ignored, even by the band.A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:18 am I wouldn't say so, but it's definitely underrated. I reckon Pandemonium is the bastard child amongst KJ albums.
Yeah, their whole "groove" period has undergone a slight reevaluation recently, (esp on Decibel), but it's still overlooked. They evolved so much w/ Danny on the drums but this sound lost them their old audience and didn't gain them a new one; a real shame because they were super fluid and expressive during this era (shoulda changed singer really, cuz Barney is unable to keep up and is virtually redundant on these records). But I felt they got a raw deal as the band is operating well above the mid-90s Roadrunner pablum.A_Man_Who_Tries wrote:Diatribes landed amongst the high watermark of what some of these parts have christened 'mersh metal', and while it stood up favourably to a lot of output of the time, fact is this was not a time to be British and peddling what sounded transatlantic.
I'll be a bit more controversial and say Inside the Torn Apart is the most realised effort - gains back a bit of the edge they lost on Diatribes, which (IMO) suffers a tad from over-polished production.
Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:00 am
My choice would be the commercial suicide period run of Ministry records: Filth Pig, Dark Side of the Spoon and Animositytisomina - Al's junky nonsense aside, they were churning out some really sonically inventive, super aggressive material that just got completely ignored. I think it holds up really well (esp compared to the compitent but deadly dull thrash direction that Al pursued after Barker left).
Re: Speak up for the great 'bastard child' albums.
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:50 am
Pandemonium sounds pretty dated due to its industrial metal-isms. I think Democracy is the stronger record, but it suffers from the handful of techno-metal tracks.M.H wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:50 amJudging by the band's set lists over the last few tours, they've decided that the 2 self titled albums, Pandemonium and Night Time are where the strongest material is to be found - I'd argue it's the melodic and melancholic Joke (Brighter than a Thousand Suns and Democracy) that often get unfairly ignored, even by the band.A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:18 am I wouldn't say so, but it's definitely underrated. I reckon Pandemonium is the bastard child amongst KJ albums.
Yeah, their whole "groove" period has undergone a slight reevaluation recently, (esp on Decibel), but it's still overlooked. They evolved so much w/ Danny on the drums but this sound lost them their old audience and didn't gain them a new one; a real shame because they were super fluid and expressive during this era (shoulda changed singer really, cuz Barney is unable to keep up and is virtually redundant on these records). But I felt they got a raw deal as the band is operating well above the mid-90s Roadrunner pablum.A_Man_Who_Tries wrote:Diatribes landed amongst the high watermark of what some of these parts have christened 'mersh metal', and while it stood up favourably to a lot of output of the time, fact is this was not a time to be British and peddling what sounded transatlantic.
I'll be a bit more controversial and say Inside the Torn Apart is the most realised effort - gains back a bit of the edge they lost on Diatribes, which (IMO) suffers a tad from over-polished production.
I love Night Time and Brighter Than A Thousand Suns, but Extremities was probably their high point.