Re: Preamps
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:54 pm
^ I'll have to give it another try then.
It's just a less curated group of opinionated nerds/assholes than here. Same shit, just a more pedestrian pool of loudmouths. I prefer the shallow pond of dependable extra-loud mouths you find in these parts. Its kinda pure here.seby wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:27 pm Hey I found out about Airwindows on gearspace, and learned a lot about dithering and src. Also a tonne of great small scale builders of great gear, both hardware and itb. I really do like the place!
"Demos" eh? Back in my day we'd call that wasting $15k making something that sucks.penningtron wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:23 am That place is the worst. I remember some posts along the lines of "$15,000 to make a record? Back in my day we used to call those demos lol.."
To paraphrase someone else around here: the used bin is full of big budget productions..Anthony Flack wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:23 pm"Demos" eh? Back in my day we'd call that wasting $15k making something that sucks.penningtron wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:23 am That place is the worst. I remember some posts along the lines of "$15,000 to make a record? Back in my day we used to call those demos lol.."
llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 6:23 pmI bought something on Reverb and the company sent me the wrong item (which turned out to be a whole thing so I am being vague), so I had a fancy 500 series preamp to test out for a couple days. By the time I aligned everything with test tones and mic splitters and stuff I could have been well on my way to tracking something.
There was hardly a lick of difference between my cheapish Spectra mic preamp and the other one. I couldn’t even test it in overdrive because the other pre was already so gainy with a tube condenser mic on vocals. At the end I saved the session and made a note warning against going down that rabbit hole again.
But maybe if I just add dithering into my practice
It could dissuade me from worrying about it further, but I could at least give it a try. Just not a priority vs actually finishing stuff.
I have a 24 ch gl2200 that I've kept around for about 15 years. it's a pretty great bang for the buck since I got it for like a hundo because it had some dead channels. I recapped the whole thing and modded it for pre fader direct outs and it makes a great DAW front end. preamps are boring but clean. totally fine on anything but kick and toms. I've considered getting rid of it lately but it's so useful I can't do it.SurfySpark wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:53 pm Heh heh. So I just snagged a pair of Allen & Heath GL2200 32-channel boards for a song on Ebay. They lived in a church. I got two while they were so cheap, in case one breaks down the line. ($1500 for both.)
Dan
yep. after a point in "quality" the differences kinda fade away UNLESS you have a pre that is specifically not a full range broad bandwidth preamp designed to be "clean and low noise". I've been using my Black Lion auteurs a lot lately because I noticed I didn't reach for them much. electronically balanced transformer output. I have mk2 and 3 and they are great. absolutely nothing special. my advice after years chasing preamps is buy a bunch of somethings reliable and predictable, then buy a bunch of weird shit that isn't super high quality but sounds weird or cool like little Shure mixers and cb radio preamps and old pa mixers. I use those preamps kinda like a stomp box. I don't care about subtle differences in preamps.llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2026 3:41 pm
Mic preamps totally do make a difference, but once you get to a certain level of quality whether that difference is better or more flattering might be hard to tell throughout a whole song. Sometimes it was more apparent on certain passages and not others.