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Objectively, Sumner is a weak singer who sounds like he’s forever figuring out a melody as he’s singing. But New Order rules and the singing is, I’d say, strong in the band context, and maybe there’s a shakiness that compliments an otherwise really “produced” sound. Boy, it must have been painful to hear those vocals soloed when mixing, though.

I like a lot of other singers who aren’t very “good”, but in order for that to work, there has to be something special with a vocal character (Yow, Schneider) or be a particularly good storyteller or have a compellingly droll thing (Townes VZ, David Berman, whatshisname from Pavement etc).

Definitely let’s not shoot any of these folks, please.

Maurice wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:27 pm

andyman wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:32 pm The Birthday Party. 110%.

I'd say any Nick Cave project, really.

A bold assertion, but y'know, you're not wrong. Especially with The Birthday Party.

That's them, officer; that's them right there

An observation: Bernard Sumner can sing OK he just can't write lyrics so good.

I would probably say Edward Ka-Spel or David Tibet.

Jandek

Josip from Joe 4

Bobby McFerrin

Appliancide wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 6:08 am I would probably say Edward Ka-Spel or David Tibet.

Lu Zwei wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:43 am Josip from Joe 4

NooooO!

major wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 10:05 amJandek

Thinking through the alternatives, you're left with Nancy, that one other dude in the Nancy era, possibly John, possibly Eddie (guitar, but a chuckle or two), or the "First Awake Moment" guy.

As good a place to post this as any.

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