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Band: Coldplay
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:15 pm
by Linus Van Pelt_Archive
full point wrote:C'mon, mang! You're being duped. Sensitive, frontman-guy sold his song "Yellow" to Ford so they could sell some more cars. Do you really think Ford cares for Sensitor's politics of "anti-war, or anti-poverty, or whatever"? No. Then why use his art to sell their oil-burning engine? They're about as big as big-business gets.
I'd have more respect for someone in his position if he'd admit the fact that he's doing what he's doing for the money. I can understand that. I don't understand (or respect) a hypocrite. Apparently, most people do. Blows me fucking mind.
I'm not sure how I'm being "duped". I'm not sure what it is that you think I believe that you know not be true. I don't respect hypocrisy, but I do respect commitment to a good cause. I don't respect shitty music, but I do respect people who are good at their jobs. I don't respect selling your art to Ford to help them make money, but I do respect being a devoted husband and father. So there are some aspects of Chris Martin that I respect, and some I do not. All of the aspects of him that I respect make me respect him more; all the ones I don't respect make me respect him less. But none of the aspects I don't respect make me respect the aspects I do respect any less. If that makes sense.
Band: Coldplay
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:15 pm
by emmanuelle cunt_Archive
crap, no waffles. their singer's voice and face expressions when he 'signs' in videos really piss me off.
Band: Coldplay
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:21 pm
by emmanuelle cunt_Archive
yushbombn wrote:
Chris Martin the singer is a complete cock because he writes a trendy political message on his hand at every photo opportunity (such as 'stop the war') - it's such a transparent attempt to consolodate his retarded student fanbase, thus selling more of his horrible records. If he was serious about any of his throwaway soundbites he could do a fuck lot more than write stoopid meesages on his hand. ASSHOLE!
retarted student fanbase this one got me laughing out loud! salut!
Band: Coldplay
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:42 pm
by Tom_Archive
Linus Van Pelt wrote:I'm not sure how I'm being "duped". I'm not sure what it is that you think I believe that you know not be true. I don't respect hypocrisy, but I do respect commitment to a good cause. I don't respect shitty music, but I do respect people who are good at their jobs. I don't respect selling your art to Ford to help them make money, but I do respect being a devoted husband and father. So there are some aspects of Chris Martin that I respect, and some I do not. All of the aspects of him that I respect make me respect him more; all the ones I don't respect make me respect him less. But none of the aspects I don't respect make me respect the aspects I do respect any less. If that makes sense.
So, uh... ya like yourself some coldplay do ya?
Band: Coldplay
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:35 pm
by Eksvplot_Archive
tmidgett wrote:Eksvplot wrote:"Everybody Wants To Rule the World" is track i find enjoyable
i think this song is quite good, a lot better than any coldplay i have heard
i listened to it closely on the radio the other day
it has straightforward lyrics, heartfelt but specific, and neither simplistic or fulsomely emotional, which is shocking given some of their other output
and the music is accomplished. you have some 80s production to get past, but even that's not too bad, given what it could have been.
this song, she strikes a chord, figuratively speaking, and i think this is always some kind of accomplishment:
to shape, in a few minutes, a particular, nuanced emotional environment that is common to many people who are not either sops or drama queens
and to do so without totally obvious manipulation of the listener via banal tropes of the heartstrings
even as this manipulation of the listener occurs, it must be at least slightly veiled to work properly. to do this kind of sleight of hand is beyond coldplay thus far!
salut, tears for fears...!!! terrible band name, but great slang term for taking a dump!
yeah, it's a really good tune. sometimes it vaguely reminds me of "the 15th" by wire. ever notice these similarities? (maybe it's just me.)
also, being in my mid-twenties now, i have a fondness for certain pop songs that i liked as a kid that don't suck at all in retrospect. "owner of a lonely heart" by yes also comes to mind.
and as you say, it's not easy to cultivate a mood like this without the song lapsing into heavyhanded sentimentality. what i like too is that there's just enough ambiguity in the lyrics to render the subject matter somewhat open-ended.
and though the 80s production gives it a dated air, just imagine what kind of a misfire we might have on our hands had it been recorded in the 90s commercial rock heyday. personally i'd take the occasional synth wash over a post-"grunge" chord progression anyday. but i digress.
Band: Coldplay
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:36 pm
by Eksvplot_Archive
oh and, yeah, tears for fears is a terrible band name. almost as band as spandau ballet. (colin newman made fun of the latter in the everybody loves a history book, and for good reason.)
Band: Coldplay
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:18 pm
by Linus Van Pelt_Archive
Tom wrote:So, uh... ya like yourself some coldplay do ya?
God fucking dammit Tom go cry in a lake.
Band: Coldplay
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:36 pm
by John W_Archive
Mang?
Band: Coldplay
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:46 pm
by full point_Archive
yes. MANG!
Band: Coldplay
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:35 am
by John W_Archive
... 'the Merciless'?