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gospel according to matty

Now, in order for anything to be intelligible, there has to be a principle which itself is intelligent to make it intelligible.

This makes no logical sense, as by your thinking nothing intelligible could ever exist without a previous intelligence. So why should we give your god any slack? Who's idea was it to invent an invisible man in the sky who loves us all, but does approximately fuckall? What was before god? As usual with you, the baseline argument is "Jesus is Magic".

Gramsci wrote:You question is the same as "if a tree falls in a forest, and there is no one to hear it, does it make a sound."

Yes it does make a sound.

Actually, scientifically you shouldn't say yes to that one. The answer is 'possibly'. If we don't hear it and there is no instrument to measure the sound we do not know that it makes one.

That's as far as I understand it anyhow.

Also, just to put the stick in the pot a bit further, some say the universe does need an intelligence in order to exist but that that intelligence is ours.

It wouldn't be there if we didn't see it.

ivan wrote:gospel according to matty

Now, in order for anything to be intelligible, there has to be a principle which itself is intelligent to make it intelligible.

This makes no logical sense, as by your thinking nothing intelligible could ever exist without a previous intelligence. So why should we give your god any slack? Who's idea was it to invent an invisible man in the sky who loves us all, but does approximately fuckall? What was before god? As usual with you, the baseline argument is "Jesus is Magic".

reasoning is the tool of satan, please stop before it's too late.

Earwicker wrote:

Gramsci wrote:You question is the same as "if a tree falls in a forest, and there is no one to hear it, does it make a sound."

Yes it does make a sound.

Actually, scientifically you shouldn't say yes to that one. The answer is 'possibly'. If we don't hear it and there is no instrument to measure the sound we do not know that it makes one.

That's as far as I understand it anyhow.

Sound is moving air, which doesn't require a receptor to exist.

kerble wrote:
and yet you and Gramsci are both stupid monkeys.


go figure.

I have no objection to being called that... It's pretty much what we all are.

Earwicker wrote:Also, just to put the stick in the pot a bit further, some say the universe does need an intelligence in order to exist but that that intelligence is ours.

It wouldn't be there if we didn't see it.

I want you to put your hand behind your head...

Does your hand exist?

matthew wrote:I do have you on the hook, because you have yet to answer my question.

What question? Matt you are asking one of those ridiculous theistic trick questions that one of you Catholic buddies told you to say.

So again Matt, the question is total invalid as it is a question that requires "God" to be in the answer. God is a figment of your imagination Matthew, when are you going to admit it. I know you don't really believe that clap-trap, be honest with yourself. You will be ok, I'm sure your family will get over it. But it's about time you stopped lying to yourself.

If you really want some help breaking free from the cult you belong to there are plenty of support groups etc.

The first step in solving a problem is to admit you have one.

BadComrade wrote:I don't think I've ever run across anyone that believe in god who also believes in evolution. Do these people exist?

I'm nearly in that camp. I don't specifically believe in a capital 'G' God, but I don't not believe in a God, either. I just say that a supreme being is one of the many explanations for our presence on Earth that wouldn't surprise me. And I do believe in evolution, and I share your confusion over why many Christians seem to be unable to juggle God and evolution in their minds.

clocker bob wrote:And I do believe in evolution, and I share your confusion over why many Christians seem to be unable to juggle God and evolution in their minds.

... because the Bible is the word of God and very clear about the origins of the universe...

They are just being honest to their faith.