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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:02 am
by Brinkman_Archive
matthew wrote:I will say this about the minimum wage since it's a timely issue: bullshit. Labor is a commodity.....where there is work to be done, there is a market for persons to do that work. It is as simple as that. So therefore the minimum wage ought to be truly minimum: $0.00 per hour.


OOPS! I stumbled across this looking for intelligent, compassionate discourse.

My mistake,
Jesus Fucking Christ

radio personality: rush limbaugh

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:07 am
by bassdriver_Archive
matthew wrote:I will say this about the minimum wage since it's a timely issue: bullshit. Labor is a commodity.....where there is work to be done, there is a market for persons to do that work. It is as simple as that. So therefore the minimum wage ought to be truly minimum: $0.00 per hour.

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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:21 am
by Eierdiebe
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radio personality: rush limbaugh

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:08 am
by clocker bob_Archive
steve wrote:
matthew wrote:Apples and oranges, Mr. Albini. You're mixing all these complicated issues together and in the end saying nothing at all.

What I'm saying is that the left/liberal/progressive position on all these issues was proven right by history. We hold the decent, humane, compassionate, generous, charitable, honorable position virtually every time.


You're never going to sell him on your side using adjectives like those- he's a Christian. A laissez faire trickle down Christian. Maybe because they are simple folks who trust in the beneficence of an unknowable God, they are easy marks to be sold on the egalitarianism of unregulated capitalism.

Whenever skeptics ask for proof of God, they say "have faith- he will show himself to us when we behave better". Whenever skeptics ask for proof of the supremacy of unchecked greed as the market's best leveller, they say "wait, it will triumph when people behave better".

What I have learned from watching Christians who celebrate libertarianism is that they gravitate to that ideology because their religion alone doesn't provide them with enough opportunities to oppress and bully their fellow men.

radio personality: rush limbaugh

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:40 am
by mrarrison_Archive
matthew wrote:I will say this about the minimum wage since it's a timely issue: bullshit. Labor is a commodity.....where there is work to be done, there is a market for persons to do that work. It is as simple as that. So therefore the minimum wage ought to be truly minimum: $0.00 per hour.


Cmon, matthew. That's just mean (and easy to say given that you come from what I presume is a skilled, white, educated, and not-poor upbringing). Conversely, if you think there should be no regulation on wages from the federal government (which it sounds like from reading your many posts) then I guess we just don't pay corporate CEO's enough, do we? And greed, it's good, right? How is this mindset Christian?? Please explain.

This is the same dross that Rush Limbaugh spouts. Selfish, self serving "Christianity" caked in mean-spirited greed and hypocrisy. Would Jesus behave like that? Really?

radio personality: rush limbaugh

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:02 am
by rzs_Archive
Minotaur029 wrote:

Gun control is silly. If you wanna kill somebody with a gun, you'll get one to do it with one way or another.


Ok, Charlton.


Obviously, you can't stop real criminals from getting guns, but some level of gun control could hopefully stop the type of heat of the moment killings that the proximity to guns exacerbates.
For example, road rage murders. I'm sure that guy wouldn't have murdered someone in front of Wrigley Field a couple of years ago in a traffic dispute if he hadn't been traveling with a gun. Yeah, he must have been really mad, but I doubt if there were no gun available that he would have beaten them to death with a baseball bat or stabbed them to death or anything.
For example, domestic disputes. People kill their partners in domestic disputes often and not always with guns, but I'm sure that some of these would be avoided if there were no guns in the house at the time. Again, I doubt if all of these circumstances would have ended in a death by strangulation or whatever.

A total ban isn't necessary. Hunting, etc. is fine. But if guns are harder to obtain, maybe every random idiot won't have them and allow themselves the possiblilty to make terrible heat of the moment decisions.

radio personality: rush limbaugh

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:07 am
by rzs_Archive
mr.arrison wrote:
matthew wrote:I will say this about the minimum wage since it's a timely issue: bullshit. Labor is a commodity.....where there is work to be done, there is a market for persons to do that work. It is as simple as that. So therefore the minimum wage ought to be truly minimum: $0.00 per hour.


That's just mean (and easy to say given that you come from what I presume is a skilled, white, educated, and not-poor upbringing).

How is this mindset Christian?? Please explain.


Selfish, self serving "Christianity" caked in mean-spirited greed and hypocrisy. Would Jesus behave like that? Really?


clocker bob wrote:
We had that system once. A really big war broke out.

radio personality: rush limbaugh

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:04 am
by llllllllllllllllllllllll_Archive
matthew wrote:I will say this about the minimum wage since it's a timely issue: bullshit. Labor is a commodity.....where there is work to be done, there is a market for persons to do that work. It is as simple as that. So therefore the minimum wage ought to be truly minimum: $0.00 per hour.


That's great, matthew, you sick asshole, that's really great. In all seriousness, if Jesus were alive today, he might hate you and try to fuck up your house with a stick.

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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:45 am
by vockins_Archive
DregsInTheCrowd wrote:
vockins wrote:
steve wrote:The problem isn't that guns are unsafe


No, that's the problem. Guns are unsafe. By design. That's the whole idea of the gun. Unsafety to the extreme.


Unsafety to the extreme? How about this: I have a pretty average kitchen. In the wrong hands (or the middle ages) it would be a treacherous dungeon. I have a car. In the wrong hands, it is a top notch people/squirrel flattener. I have a garage full of motor oil, propane, cleaning products, styrofoam, and a rake. In the wrong hands, it is a bomb/rake-attack factory.


The primary purpose of a kitchen is to prepare food. The primary purpose of a car is to transport people and goods. The primary purpose of a garage is for storage and maintenance of vehicles.

The primary purpose of a gun is to inflict trauma. That is the most important consideration when they are being designed and when they are being purchased. In the wrong hands, it is an extremely effective for inflicting trauma or threatening to inflict trauma. In the right hands, it is an effective tool for inflicting trauma or threatening to inflict trauma. There is no misuse when a gun is used in a suicide, a robbery, or a homicide. The gun is the perfect tool for the situation.

The firearms that are exceptions to this rule (target rifles and pistols) are such an insignificant portion of total firearm market that they can be excluded from this discussion.

DregsInTheCrowd wrote:And assholes who want to commit crimes will find ways to get them, regardless of what the law states.

Framing the discussion in regards to those who are commiting crimes ignores the multiple ways guns are used kill and harm people in the United States. The number of deaths due to improper storage & handling, domestic violence, road rage, revenge, suicide are significant.

radio personality: rush limbaugh

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:57 am
by matthew_Archive
I think some of you folks are missing the point here. I am certainly not saying that employers ought not to compensate people for work in some instances what with setting the minimum wage at $0.00. After all, no one in their right mind would take a job which offered a wage or salary of nil. I'm merely saying that the market ought to decide how much or how little labor costs, because that is...once again...simply how the world works. The price of anything is ultimately determined by supply and demand (or at least the perception thereof), and labor is no exception. Ask anyone who owns a business.