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Clyde wrote:skoz wrote:Clyde wrote:Aha. I knew the I AM stuff was also an offshoot but I didn't realize CUT was an offshoot of I AM. I mistakenly thought they were contemporaneous. I don't mean to impose but, if you're comfortable, would you mind telling us a little more about your experience in CUT? How your family got involved/got out, for example? Or any positive memories you have of the experience? Or anything you think is worth telling. Again, if you'd rather not, I understand completely.The I AM movement stared in the 30's and Mark Prophet started the Summit in the 50's I believe drawing from an interest in the I AM movement. In regards to my family and Summit Lighthouse/CUT, it's a pretty long involved topic but I'll summarize. My parents joined the organization in the early 70s and worked for the leaders Mark and Elizabeth Prophet. As staff members they lived in poverty gave all of there assets to the church and cut off contact with there family's. My dads income in 1974 was $200. After Mark prophet died in 73 things got dark. Elizabeth arranged marriages between staff members including my parents and encouraged them to have kids. She wanted them to bring forth a new generation of avatars to balance the earths karma or something like that. There were lots of rules governing all aspects of life including married couples sex lives. staff members were encouraged to rat one another out when rules were broken. Elizabeth started having staff members prepare for nuclear war my Dad was involved in stockpiling survivalist gear, weapons and gold. My Dad decided he couldn't deal and left.My parents split up. Ultimately he was exiled for 300,000 years in 76. My mom stayed involved but no longer was on staff. I do remember spending a lot of time at the church compound in Malibu when I was 4 or so. We moved to the east coast in 1979 and regularly attended church in DC. My Mom married a man who wasn't involved in the church so I while grew up with some of the crazy supernatural/social/political ideas it was sort of a watered down version. After my stepdad passed away in 88 my Mom and siblings moved close to the Montana headquarters and got much more involved building a bomb shelter and purchasing weapons. I had moved in with my Dad by this point and missed out on a lot of the Montana period but my siblings we pretty negatively affected by it. My mom got out for good in the late 90s but has a lot of friends who are former members. She looks back on a lot of it negatively. My dad who got out much earlier has plenty of criticisms but also credits the church for helping him develop discipline and a work ethic. He also for reasons I don't understand is still into various types gurus and spirituality. I don't have anything positive to say about my experiences with the church.Thank you so much for sharing that. It sounds like an amazing story that was pretty awful to live through. I have a ton of follow-up questions but I'll stop harassing you, at least for now.I'm fine with answering some specific questions about the church but don't really want to make this thread about my life story. Maybe PM me unless you think it might be in the general interest.

The Source Family, which sounds like it was pretty much the '70s California hippie cult/commune par excellence, is the subject of a very interesting documentary, available on Hulu and Youtube. The outsider-y, semi-improvised ritual psychedelic music produced by Father Yod and YaHoWha 13 is something, all right. Can't wait for the forthcoming TV miniseries about the Source Family, directed by Todd Haynes.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father\_Yodhttp://www.yahowha.org/

ERawk wrote:I've been reading up a lot about evangelical fundie cults (yes, IBLP/ATI/Quiverfull all qualify as cults even if the isolationism isn't the quite same as People's Temple/CUT/Children of God et al.) because their influence on American politics (up to state and HOR level at the very least) is terrifying when you are equipped with body parts that make you a political football (like a uterus and ovaries). I want to see those motherfuckers go down more than anything, especially for their bitching about/political influence on abortion, female body autonomy, patriarchy, etc. If you don't mind the smelly vaginaness of it all, Free Jinger has some good current event info on some of the current fundie cults of personality and their doings along with some stories from survivors about the inner workings of fundiedom (mostly IFB variety). There's also smelly female vagina like gossip so it's not for the faint of delicate man hearts.Somewhat related, this looks worthwhile: phpBB [media]That man's voice is terrifying.Not at all related, some to-the-tits brainwashed guy hangs out by my GF's workplace handing out Tony Alamo newsletters. The one she picked up a couple of weeks ago--which was pristine, mind you, looked like it was hot off the presses--was dated January-March 2003.

http://io9.com/the-5-scariest-cults-in- ... 1733521100

A rose by any other name...http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/26/us/ma ... .html?\_r=0

Haven't had time to listen yet, but Tina Dupuy's podcast on cults Cultish is up and running after a successful Kickstarter campaign. Dupuy's a comedian and writer who grew up in the Children of God cult. CULT CHECK IT

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Thug Willie Spills Secrets About FLDScnn wrote:"We have people here who are 30 years old and aren't married. They haven't even gone out on a date. How sad is that?"But the FLDS allegedly has found a way to keep the next generation coming. A select group of particularly pious men, called Seed Bearers, are tasked with impregnating the women of Short Creek.

The Baffler writes about Synanon: http://thebaffler.com/salvos/taking-liberties