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Re: Interesting Gear Developments Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:38 am
by tallchris
Garth wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:39 am
tommy wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:26 am
Totally great. I'm hoping demand and scale will drastically reduces their pricing though. Did you see what the only tube they are currently manufacturing costs?
I was thinking this too but looking at other sites and their listed costs for 300B tubes of overseas origin are also quite high - not like $400 high, but still very high.
so...hopefully?
Considering how buying even tested tubes from Tube Doctor could be a crap shoot (my bandmate had a JJ 6L6 literally fall apart while running his amp), I'd pay more for tubes if it meant they'd have a longer life, less potential to get microphonic or just shit the bed, etc etc. In the long run would probably work out to about the same cost wise.
Re: Interesting Gear Developments Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:14 am
by twelvepoint
I’d drop $100 for a pair of US made power tubes. I might go $200 if I were feeling flush that week. I have no idea what Western Electric would retail a pair of 6L6s for but if the 300b is $1500/pair it seems unlikely guitar amp tubes would be a tenth of that.
Re: Interesting Gear Developments Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:32 am
by TylerDeadPine
I have RCA tubes from the 60/70s still running strong in amps today that I play regularly. I would pay more for that kind of dependency
Re: Interesting Gear Developments Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:38 am
by Dr Tony Balls
TylerDeadPine wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:32 am
I have RCA tubes from the 60/70s still running strong in amps today that I play regularly. I would pay more for that kind of dependency
I think this is not a particularly apt comparison to the Western Electric thing. Tubes from the 60s were made en masse by HUGE companies like RCA and General Electric with tremendous quality control. About *ANY* tube made nowadays to fill the current market demands is going to be of a lesser quality than one made in the 60s when demand was much higher. Not saying Western Electric or JJ or the potential TAD China tubes will be of poor quality, per se, just that the RCA/GE benchmark is ridiculously high.
You could probably make apt comparisons to modern magnetic tape and photographic film.
Re: Interesting Gear Developments Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:40 am
by TylerDeadPine
Dr Tony Balls wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:38 am
TylerDeadPine wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:32 am
I have RCA tubes from the 60/70s still running strong in amps today that I play regularly. I would pay more for that kind of dependency
I think this is not a particularly apt comparison to the Western Electric thing. Tubes from the 60s were made en masse by HUGE companies like RCA and General Electric with tremendous quality control. About *ANY* tube made nowadays to fill the current market demands is going to be of a lesser quality than one made in the 60s when demand was much higher. Not saying Western Electric or JJ or the potential TAD China tubes will be of poor quality, per se, just that the RCA/GE benchmark is ridiculously high.
You could probably make apt comparisons to modern magnetic tape and photographic film.
Yeah that's a particularly good point. We have far, far better QC technology available these days for not much money - a gal can dream.
Re: Interesting Gear Developments Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:12 am
by Owen
Pretty interested in seeing how the new Boss RE-202 Space Echo turns out.
https://guitar.com/news/gear-news/boss- ... YvvC39ksaI
Re: Interesting Gear Developments Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:33 am
by TylerDeadPine
That's fun. An old buddy got a cease and desist thrown at him for
https://www.musicradar.com/news/say-hel ... hos-preamp, and my attitude is always "well then you guys do it!" (mind you the graphics were probably a big part of it, ha), would like to see if they got that front end right
Re: Interesting Gear Developments Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:39 am
by scott
Re: Interesting Gear Developments Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:41 am
by Garth
Fuck Roland. That's some nonsense there. They let Music Group get away w/ all their similar clones - like the
TC Electronics June 60 pedal for instance - just because they know Uli will defend himself. This is similar to the C&D did against Pepers Pedals in NZ for that really rad-looking Peavey-Rage-in-a-pedal they did.
Fucking bullies are bad enough, but corporate bullies are THE WORRRRRRRRRRRST.
Re: Interesting Gear Developments Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:03 pm
by ChudFusk
They finally updated the DL4! Allegedly with better switches too.
https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/line- ... is-reborn/