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Owen wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:17 pm <useful information>

twelvepoint wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:13 pm

TylerDeadPine wrote: I've got a crappy old garage with wood siding that is falling apart due to termites/rot - garage was fumigated as part of our house, so termites are gone and I want to replace the exterior with OSB, tyvex and siding. Looking at engineered wood to keep the same look & feel, also because I can cut it easier/cleaner than cement board - any bad experiences there/better suggestions? I'm in San Diego with 280 days of sun, about 10 days of rain a year

By engineered do you mean something like this:
https://truexterior.com/truexterior-siding-and-trim/

I have some rotting trim boards at my place that I'm replacing and considered something like this. The pros around here call it "Boral" which I think is the parent company. Anyway, I went with a a finger jointed pine called Windsor One, but I'd be curious to hear how this works for you if you use it.

I used PVC trim in a couple places but our temperatures here swing over 100 degrees in the course of a year and it's incredibly unstable. Wouldn't recommend that unless it's short lengths.

TylerDeadPine wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 12:41 pm I've got a crappy old garage with wood siding that is falling apart due to termites/rot - garage was fumigated as part of our house, so termites are gone and I want to replace the exterior with OSB, tyvex and siding. Looking at engineered wood to keep the same look & feel, also because I can cut it easier/cleaner than cement board - any bad experiences there/better suggestions? I'm in San Diego with 280 days of sun, about 10 days of rain a year

biscuitdough wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:00 pm

TylerDeadPine wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 12:41 pm I've got a crappy old garage with wood siding that is falling apart due to termites/rot - garage was fumigated as part of our house, so termites are gone and I want to replace the exterior with OSB, tyvex and siding. Looking at engineered wood to keep the same look & feel, also because I can cut it easier/cleaner than cement board - any bad experiences there/better suggestions? I'm in San Diego with 280 days of sun, about 10 days of rain a year

If you plan to be inside it ever at all, get structural plywood instead of OSB. OSB takes years to stop billowing out formaldehyde fumes.

TylerDeadPine wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:41 pm

biscuitdough wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:00 pm

TylerDeadPine wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 12:41 pm I've got a crappy old garage with wood siding that is falling apart due to termites/rot - garage was fumigated as part of our house, so termites are gone and I want to replace the exterior with OSB, tyvex and siding. Looking at engineered wood to keep the same look & feel, also because I can cut it easier/cleaner than cement board - any bad experiences there/better suggestions? I'm in San Diego with 280 days of sun, about 10 days of rain a year

If you plan to be inside it ever at all, get structural plywood instead of OSB. OSB takes years to stop billowing out formaldehyde fumes.

Don't want my spouse to get double cancer. Thanks for the reminder - looks like even in california they're both exempt from emissions standards, have to guess structural would off-gas less.

biscuitdough wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:37 am

TylerDeadPine wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:41 pm

biscuitdough wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:00 pm

If you plan to be inside it ever at all, get structural plywood instead of OSB. OSB takes years to stop billowing out formaldehyde fumes.

Don't want my spouse to get double cancer. Thanks for the reminder - looks like even in california they're both exempt from emissions standards, have to guess structural would off-gas less.

That’s absolutely it. It’s stabilized in the ply.

California is probably the craziest state about fire safety, I guess with some justification. That’s where the flame-retardant cigarettes got their start, too. It still burns, it’s just at a higher temp, and many times more toxic when it does.

TylerDeadPine wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:52 pm

twelvepoint wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:13 pm

TylerDeadPine wrote: I've got a crappy old garage with wood siding that is falling apart due to termites/rot - garage was fumigated as part of our house, so termites are gone and I want to replace the exterior with OSB, tyvex and siding. Looking at engineered wood to keep the same look & feel, also because I can cut it easier/cleaner than cement board - any bad experiences there/better suggestions? I'm in San Diego with 280 days of sun, about 10 days of rain a year

By engineered do you mean something like this:
https://truexterior.com/truexterior-siding-and-trim/

I have some rotting trim boards at my place that I'm replacing and considered something like this. The pros around here call it "Boral" which I think is the parent company. Anyway, I went with a a finger jointed pine called Windsor One, but I'd be curious to hear how this works for you if you use it.

I used PVC trim in a couple places but our temperatures here swing over 100 degrees in the course of a year and it's incredibly unstable. Wouldn't recommend that unless it's short lengths.

I was more thinking something like composite, a la
https://www.homedepot.com/b/Building-Ma ... ng%7D%3Aqu

But open to any suggestions

TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:42 am Anyone need to feel better about themselves due to my misfortune?


I’m building in a dresser and shelves into our closet. My spouse has cancer and is in and out of hospital for chemo and when my mother and law is there I’m at home for a day or two I furiously try to finish the few projects that i had before diagnosis to improve our home situation. Our house is 100 years old and I’m an idiot so that’s important facts.
Right so shelves - I have some nice flamed maple (excessivec, I know but I have it) I was using for supports for the shelves and to mount hooks to. I used a stud finder and found a stud in one side in a weird spot, but I did this in another closet and it was similar. This is an exterior wall and our bedroom was an addition ten years ago so I don’t know what nuttiness. Stud finder says electrical on one side of the stud - I mark each edge and the center. I screw the piece of wood in and you bet, black smoke comes out, the screw is steaming hot and welded with copper. Quickly cut a hole in the wall to find out not only is there no stud there, it’s a copper pipe with the AC main power and the lines going to my garage.

Hit the AC 240 line dead center in the middle of the worst california heat wave in years. I take conservation seriously.


I’m my defense there was some weird diagonal studs and non parallel fire block going on as well so stud finding was a mess all across the wall, but in my. NOT defense once I had the wall fully opened up to splice the wire in a junction box (with a union certified electrician buddy), we found the stud exaaaactly 16” from the corner. Did I mention my spouse has cancer? I’m playing that card, fack.

TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:42 am Anyone need to feel better about themselves due to my misfortune?


I’m building in a dresser and shelves into our closet. My spouse has cancer and is in and out of hospital for chemo and when my mother and law is there I’m at home for a day or two I furiously try to finish the few projects that i had before diagnosis to improve our home situation. Our house is 100 years old and I’m an idiot so that’s important facts.
Right so shelves - I have some nice flamed maple (excessivec, I know but I have it) I was using for supports for the shelves and to mount hooks to. I used a stud finder and found a stud in one side in a weird spot, but I did this in another closet and it was similar. This is an exterior wall and our bedroom was an addition ten years ago so I don’t know what nuttiness. Stud finder says electrical on one side of the stud - I mark each edge and the center. I screw the piece of wood in and you bet, black smoke comes out, the screw is steaming hot and welded with copper. Quickly cut a hole in the wall to find out not only is there no stud there, it’s a copper pipe with the AC main power and the lines going to my garage.

Hit the AC 240 line dead center in the middle of the worst california heat wave in years. I take conservation seriously.


I’m my defense there was some weird diagonal studs and non parallel fire block going on as well so stud finding was a mess all across the wall, but in my. NOT defense once I had the wall fully opened up to splice the wire in a junction box (with a union certified electrician buddy), we found the stud exaaaactly 16” from the corner. Did I mention my spouse has cancer? I’m playing that card, fack.