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Krev wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:07 pm Honestly, I think Phil's vocals often detracted from the quality riffage on that record.

Krev wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:07 pm Honestly, I think Phil's vocals often detracted from the quality riffage on that record.

Krev wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:53 pm Faith No More's Angel Dust split the difference between the two in many ways.

numberthirty wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:50 pm You can be one of the most capable dipshits that has ever set foot in the game as long as you sing just "Bury Me In Smoke" and "Stone The Crow" the way he did on that record.

M.H wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:54 am

numberthirty wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:50 pm You can be one of the most capable dipshits that has ever set foot in the game as long as you sing just "Bury Me In Smoke" and "Stone The Crow" the way he did on that record.

He's great on that (and the second Down album which I also rate) but IMO he's playing most to type on the Down records, whereas the music is way more rich and lyrical than I would have expected from the dudes behind C.O.C and Crowbar - almost like a southern flavour of the Obsessed brew.

numberthirty wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:46 am They literally named the record NOLA...

M.H wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:49 am

Krev wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:53 pm Faith No More's Angel Dust split the difference between the two in many ways.

Nah, totally different kettle of fish - their weird amalgamation of various post-punk / sub-cult influences (lots of Killing Joke as the base but there's thrash, funk, maybe a bit of prog and disco spice from Roddy) was too multifaceted and idiosyncratic, even though (via sheer talent) they made it work in a big rock context, esp on The Real Thing.

But they were too perverse / smart / cynical to just rock like mainstream facing, hard rock dudes in the aforementioned bands (no bad thing) and you kinda saw that when they influenced a separate sub-genre of bands like Korn and Deftones and the nu-metal legions that followed them.

That dumbed down take on FNM definitely influenced the mainstream rock world though - to the point where you even had a post nu-metal flavours of AIC (Godsmack) and Pantera (Five Finger Death Punch) - functional but monochromatic music.

numberthirty wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:14 pm Never mind that "Cemetery Gates" is the fifth tune on The Queen Is Dead and Cowboys From Hell.