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Re: Politics
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:29 am
by zorg
cakes wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 8:29 am
Trump is a big fucking liar. Voter fraud is rare and by the evidence we've seen, it's usually right wingers doing it.
Agreed, but in the organized crime era there was certainly more ballot-stuffing going on..."Vote early, vote often" being a phrase famous with Chicago gangsters Richard Daley and Al Capone. Nowadays, I think most parties realize that advertising with fake news and hysteria work just as well as directly buying votes. Weaponizing stupidity.
Re: Politics
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:46 am
by TylerDeadPine
zorg wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:29 am
cakes wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 8:29 am
Trump is a big fucking liar. Voter fraud is rare and by the evidence we've seen, it's usually right wingers doing it.
Agreed, but in the organized crime era there was certainly more ballot-stuffing going on..."Vote early, vote often" being a phrase famous with Chicago gangsters Richard Daley and Al Capone. Nowadays, I think most parties realize that advertising with fake news and hysteria work just as well as directly buying votes. Weaponizing stupidity.
Trump does believe that 70s mob movies are real in 2025
Re: Politics
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:55 am
by cakes
TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:46 am
zorg wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:29 am
cakes wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 8:29 am
Trump is a big fucking liar. Voter fraud is rare and by the evidence we've seen, it's usually right wingers doing it.
Agreed, but in the organized crime era there was certainly more ballot-stuffing going on..."Vote early, vote often" being a phrase famous with Chicago gangsters Richard Daley and Al Capone. Nowadays, I think most parties realize that advertising with fake news and hysteria work just as well as directly buying votes. Weaponizing stupidity.
Trump does believe that 70s mob movies are real in 2025
I don't see the relevance of something that happened literally 60 years ago with completely different politics, laws and people. This is a fucking joke, and when people keep bringing it up, it's because they're dumb.
Put this up there with "Democrats are the party of the KKK".
Re: Politics
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 10:02 am
by enframed
So Trump wins an election with then of thousands more illegals here than there will be by November 2026 but there's still no way Republicans can win unless [fill in the blank].
Re: Politics
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 10:02 am
by Krev
Trump's Sopranos name is Orange Taco.
Re: Politics
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 10:29 am
by Gramsci
That’s what I thought. Also why would an undocumented person be dumb enough to put their head above the parapet by trying to do something that exposes their legitimacy to be in the country?
So much bad faith in Trump’s explanation for threatening states right to run their own elections. It blows me away this kind of BS doesn’t just get shot down in flames by “normal” Republicans.
I assume fear of getting primaried by Maga goblins keeps them in line.
Re: Politics
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 10:39 am
by penningtron
Gramsci wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 10:29 am
I assume fear of getting primaried by Maga goblins keeps them in line.
I wonder how much longer having the pantshitter’s endorsement will be seen as an (ahem) asset.
Re: Politics
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 10:40 am
by Krev
The MAGA goblins have been losing all the elections, so bring it on.
Re: Politics
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 10:54 am
by zorg
Gramsci wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 10:29 am
So much bad faith in Trump’s explanation for threatening states right to run their own elections. It blows me away this kind of BS doesn’t just get shot down in flames by “normal” Republicans.
These are pragmatic people. The "election fraud" boogeyman thing has obviously been playing really well for them for at least 10 years. They would have moved on to something else if it wasn't a winner. In the meantime it allows them to chip away at these redistricting things and whatever other things to better their position. Also things like
this, which argues that the Maduro kidnapping was in large part to build their base in Florida. I wouldn't be surprised.
This political reality is reinforced by Florida’s large and politically mobilised Latino communities. Cuban American voters have long prioritised anti-communist foreign policy positions while Venezuelan American communities, many of whom settled in the state over the past decade, have expressed strong opposition to authoritarian leftist governance in Caracas. Political scientists note that these constituencies constitute a significant voting bloc in closely contested elections, giving political elites strong incentives to adopt hardline positions against leftist regimes that resonate with these voters.
Re: Politics
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 11:11 am
by enframed
Gramsci wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 10:29 am
That’s what I thought. Also why would an undocumented person be dumb enough to put their head above the parapet by trying to do something that exposes their legitimacy to be in the country?
So much bad faith in Trump’s explanation for threatening states right to run their own elections. It blows me away this kind of BS doesn’t just get shot down in flames by “normal” Republicans.
I assume fear of getting primaried by Maga goblins keeps them in line.
Which means that they place saving their own jobs above doing the right thing for the country.