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Ron Paul?

No way he will get the nomination
Total votes: 67 (64%)
He has a chance of the nomination, but he could never beat the Democrats
Total votes: 4 (4%)
Paul in '08!
Total votes: 33 (32%)
Total votes: 104

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

761 by Mark Hansen_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote: The fake liberal media has joined in also- it's their job to smear Ron Paul by linking him to white power sites or jew hate sites.

It's fun to watch this all play out, because every time the controlled media tries to use the 9/11 truth angle or the banking scam angle against Ron Paul, they cast more light on their own failures to cover these stories. They risk generating a lot of new curiosity in their efforts to defame Paul.


If you go on Stormfront, there is a rather huge Ron Paul thread. I can't say I've read much of it, as it gets very tedious reading anything on that forum, as it seems most people there can't seem to tether their hate.

It does seem like a significant proportion of people posting on it (the thread on Stormfront) feel he's their man. I do agree though, that, in all likelihood, a fair amount of the posters on that thread, and that forum in general, are probably agents provocateurs, as are probably quite a few people on those type of forums in general.
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Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

762 by Johnny C_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:Liberal: "Bush lied us into war- he's a blood and oil soaked apocalyptic serial liar and criminal!"

The Same Liberal: "They probably covered up blowing UA93 out of the sky- then they intimidated all their servants in the controlled media into not pointing out that the hole in the ground in Shanksville looks like the remains of a '68 Buick. There's no reason why this should impeach their credibility regarding the rest of the official account, and certainly, the media cannot be blamed for ignoring this suspicious explanation . Trust your leaders, for crissakes- there's a war on!"


I haven't met these straw men you hate so passionately but I'm sure they don't deserve this level of ire.

What are the main demographics of Paul's campaign? That's a chart I'd actually care about.
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Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

763 by Mark Hansen_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:Dear Liberals:

The Hillary Clinton thread is now trailing the Ron Paul thread in views, but it's getting closer- 575 views for Hillary to 21,544 for the Paul thread. The Barack Obama thread has 1372 views. The John Edwards thread has 2614 views. The Dennis Kucinich thread, 432 views.

What has driven all the liberals into a thread on a GOP candidate who is not in the top 5 nationally? Why has all the liberal energy morphed into anti-Paul energy? I think I know: It's the issue that is a 'non-issue' :roll: . Dear Liberals: if you so desperately want to keep this 'non-issue' off the discussion table, I would advise you to stop raising the volume of this 'non-issue' by going on panzer raids against the small segment of the electorate that is talking about this 'non-issue'.

But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the liberals are just really really upset that an obstetrician from TX who had no national profile until six months ago is polling a lofty 8% in the GOP primary race. Maybe the liberals are just really into the GOP primary race in general. That's probably it. The 'non-issue' has nothing to do with it.


Maybe it's the train wreck effect at play here Rick. :D

Seriously though, I suspect the reason there are far more views on the Ron Paul thread (I assume you mean the threads on this forum) is that the level of controversy and acrimony is far higher on this thread than on any others.

Also, are there guests other than the normal posters on EA coming here and viewing the thread? That could definitely account for some of it also. If Ron Paul supporters come here to read this thread, that would bump it up.

Anyways, who cares how many views there are? Am I, or anyone else who doesn't plan on voting for him, supposed to change our minds based on the number of views of a thread on an internet forum? Jump on the bandwagon while the jumping is good?
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Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

765 by Mark Hansen_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:I'm sure. I can't have my positions swayed by who else is backing Ron Paul.


Fair enough. I know he, like anyone else, can't control who supports him, for whatever reasons.

Rick Reuben wrote: The lines have been drawn- you are either with the crooks or you are with freedom.


This is a bullshit, inflammatory, either/or.

What we may get is another kind of crook.

I am distrustful when people wrap themselves in the flag, or in a cloak of "freedom".

People in general become scoundrels when they obtain power.
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Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

767 by larsxe_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:Intense scrutiny must be turned against the twin-headed hydra of debt and fiat.


There's nothing wrong with the fiat system economically.

The gold bugs have predicted the end of civilization for the last 100 years. We're still here.

If the fiat system is truly steering the world towards economic Armageddon, then whatever alternative you have (gold included) won't be worth dick anyway. Invest your money in guns and soap instead.

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

768 by Mark Hansen_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:
larsxe wrote:The gold bugs have predicted the end of civilization for the last 100 years. We're still here.
Many cancer patients are still alive, too. Supporters of honest money can point to Germany, Russia, Argentina, Mexico and to several bank runs in the US to support their case against fiat- show me the commodity-money that has collapsed.


I was going to mention the Tulip Mania in the 17th century Netherlands, but that looks more like a case of rampant speculation gone awry rather than an actual commodity-money collapse.

Still kind of fascinating to read about though:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
Last edited by Mark Hansen_Archive on Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

769 by big_dave_Archive
Some of the reasoning posted by Rick in this thread is so fundamentally illogical that I suspect that a .txt file of all his posts is what Will Smith uploaded to the alien mothership in Independence Day, causing it to explode in a shower of "does not compute".

Maybe this is the Al Qaeda cyber attack. If anyone's AIBO or Furby reads this thread, it'll shit itself for months afterwards.

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

770 by millions_Archive
Maybe one of the Ron Paul supporters here can help me with a question I have: supposing there was a return to the gold standard and the value of the dollar begins to recover from inflation (meaning that as time went on the value of the dollar would be increasingly higher than current value), how does this affect the few trillions of dollars of consumer debt amassed in this country? Would that mean that these debts incurred when the dollar was worth a certain amount must be repaid when the dollar is worth significantly more?
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