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Ballplayer-Human Being: Barry Bonds

84 by enframed_Archive
Germ War wrote:I think Gareth Keenan said it best.

As I'm not convinced Bonds was the only player using performance-enhancing drugs, I don't believe his accomplishments really "stain" the game the way people believe. Does it make it right? No. But, the fact remains that the huge presence of the media in this day and age makes it easy to skew your perception of a player, rightly or wrongly, and one has to wonder how that media influence would translate in a historical context.

I'm not suggesting Barry Bonds isn't an asshole. I am suggesting that he played within the limits of the game, and if anything, the steroid scandal is baseball's fault. Barry had a competitive advantage available to him (as did any other player, if they so chose), and he took it, all within the rules and guidelines allowed by the league.

Does it diminish his achievement? Possibly. But he owns the record, and as far as I'm concerned, the steroid era was a level playing field, simply by baseball's negligence for having established rules in place.

Long story short: Fuck Bud Selig.


that essentially how i feel. i was happy for him when i saw the footage on the news last night. other people in baseball have taken and are taking performance enhancing drugs, steroidal or not.

christ. this is a society in which is it not only permissible but advocated that we use pharmaceuticals to feel better, work (ie, handle stress) better, socialize better, sleep better, fuck better, shit better, etc. why shouldn't people be allowed to use them to play a sport better? utterly hypocritical.

put an asterisk by the record. start a separate stat for before and after steroids began. no one REALLY cares. they just care that someone is so fucking good as bonds, steroids or not. someday it will come out that 40% of baseball is juicing one thing or another, steroidal or otherwise.
To me Steve wrote:I'm curious why[...] you wouldn't just fuck off instead. Let's hear your record, cocksocket.

Ballplayer-Human Being: Barry Bonds

87 by STF_Archive
The record is his now. You can't attach an asterisk to it, but in the future people will intrepret its legitimacy in light of the era it was set in however they want. Personally, I'm a little conflicted, but I think the record will be tainted in the minds of many people.

For a long time before I knew about Roger Maris's entry in the record book I thought "the asterisk" was just an expression. In that case it's appropriate, if a bit demeaning. He had 8 extra games: a demonstrable advantage.

In Bonds's case, there is no way to measure or quantify the adavantage steroid use provides. Nor has he failed a drug test or broken a rule, though he has admitted to inadvertently taking steroids.
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