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Either-Or: Sublime or Vanilla Ice

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:45 pm
by Mark Lansing_Archive
Red Square wrote:white kids acting black did not exist until this stupid fool...he is singlehandedly to blame for this...


The entire history of rock 'n' roll is predicated on white kids trying to act/look/sound black. Where would Elvis Presley or Mick Jagger be without this concept?

For my money, Vanilla Ice is far more offensive than Sublime. Sublime are unremarkably mediocre within their genre (ska-core and its offshoots), while Vanilla Ice incorporates nearly everything that is flawed and false within a genre (hip hop) that has produced some excellent, bracing music.

Also, with Brad Nowell dead, Sublime have little impact on music in the here and now. Vanilla Ice could make a comeback any day now, a prospect that sometimes robs me of my sleep.

Either-Or: Sublime or Vanilla Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:14 am
by Red Square_Archive
Mark Lansing wrote:
Red Square wrote:white kids acting black did not exist until this stupid fool...he is singlehandedly to blame for this...


The entire history of rock 'n' roll is predicated on white kids trying to act/look/sound black. Where would Elvis Presley or Mick Jagger be without this concept?


absolutely, i was thinking about this sometime today...though i was thinking in terms of the more negative aspects of it...

Either-Or: Sublime or Vanilla Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:49 am
by emmanuelle cunt_Archive
H-GM wrote:So it has come to the appreciation, or, ironic-appreciation, or, schadenfreude of some poor dick like Vanilla Ice who had no good songs; rather than appreciating Sublime who had at least one good song? You know it's a good pop song...stop hatin'. Let's take a look at the hot-shit mainstream singles of 1996:

1. Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix), Los Del Rio
2. One Sweet Day, Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men
3. Because You Loved Me, Celine Dion
4. Nobody Knows, Tony Rich Project
5. Always Be My Baby, Mariah Carey
6. Give Me One Reason, Tracy Chapman
7. Tha Crossroads, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
8. I Love You Always Forever, Donna Lewis
9. You're Makin' Me High / Let It Flow, Toni Braxton
10. Twisted, Keith Sweat
11. C'mon N' Ride It (The Train), Quad City Dj's
12. Missing, Everything But The Girl
13. Ironic, Alanis Morissette
14. Exhale (Shoop Shoop), Whitney Houston
15. Follow You Down / Til I Hear It From You, Gin Blossoms
16. Sittin' Up In My Room, Brandy
17. How Do U Want It / California Love, 2Pac
18. It's All Coming Back To Me Now, Celine Dion
19. Change The World, Eric Clapton
20. Hey Lover, LL Cool J
21. Loungin, LL Cool J
22. Insensitive, Jann Arden
23. Be My Lover, La Bouche
24. Name, Goo Goo Dolls
25. Who Will Save Your Soul, Jewel
26. Where Do You Go, No Mercy
27. I Can't Sleep Baby (If I), R. Kelly
28. Counting Blue Cars, Dishwalla
29. You Learn / You Oughta Know, Alanis Morissette
30. One Of Us, Joan Osborne
31. Wonder, Natalie Merchant
32. Not Gon' Cry, Mary J. Blige
33. Gangsta's Paradise, Coolio
34. Only You, 112 Featuring The Notorious B.I.G.
35. Down Low (Nobody Has To Know), R. Kelly
36. You're The One, SWV
37. Sweet Dreams, La Bouche
38. Before You Walk Out Of My Life / Like This And Like That, Monica
39. Breakfast At Tiffany's, Deep Blue Something :shock:
40. 1, 2, 3, 4 (Sumpin' New), Coolio
41. The World I Know, Collective Soul
42. No Diggity, BLACKstreet (Featuring Dr. Dre)
43. Anything, 3t
44. 1979, The Smashing Pumpkins
45. Diggin' On You, TLC
46. Why I Love You So Much / Ain't Nobody, Monica
47. Kissin' You, Total
48. Count On Me, Whitney Houston and Cece Winans
49. Fantasy, Mariah Carey
50. Time, Hootie and The Blowfish
51. You'll See, Madonna
52. Last Night, Az Yet
53. Mouth, Merril Bainbridge
54. The Earth, The Sun, The Rain, Color Me Badd
55. All The Things (Your Man Won't Do), Joe
56. Wonderwall, Oasis
57. Woo-hah!! Got You All In Check / Everything Remains Raw, Busta Rhymes
58. Tell Me, Groove Theory
59. Elevators (Me and You), Outkast
60. Hook, Blues Traveler
61. Doin It, LL Cool J
62. Fastlove, George Michael
63. Touch Me Tease Me, Case Featuring Foxxy Brown
64. Tonite's Tha Night, Kris Kross
65. Children, Robert Miles
66. Theme From Mission: Impossible, Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen
67. Closer To Free, Bodeans
68. Just A Girl, No Doubt
69. If Your Girl Only Knew, Aaliyah
70. Lady, D'angelo
71. Key West Intermezzo (I Saw You First), John Mellencamp
72. Pony, Ginuwine
73. Nobody, Keith Sweat
74. Old Man and Me (When I Get To Heaven), Hootie and The Blowfish
75. If It Makes You Happy, Sheryl Crow
76. As I Lay Me Down, Sophie B. Hawkins
77. Keep On, Keepin' On, Mc Lyte
78. Jealousy, Natalie Merchant
79. I Want To Come Over, Melissa Etheridge
80. Who Do U Love, Deborah Cox
81. Un-Break My Heart, Toni Braxton
82. This Is Your Night, Amber
83. You Remind Me Of Something, R. Kelly
84. Runaway, Janet Jackson
85. Set U Free, Planet Soul
86. Hit Me Off, New Edition
87. No One Else, Total
88. My Boo, Ghost Town Dj's
89. Get Money, Junior M.A.F.I.A.
90. That Girl, Maxi Priest Featuring Shaggy
91. Po Pimp, Do Or Die
92. Until It Sleeps, Metallica
93. Hay, Crucial Conflict
94. Beautiful Life, Ace Of Base
95. Back For Good, Take That
96. I Got Id / Long Road, Pearl Jam
97. Soon As I Get Home, Faith Evans
98. Macarena, Los Del Rio
99. Only Wanna Be With You, Hootie and The Blowfish
100. Don't Cry, Seal

Hell, "Santeria" isn't even on the list! Street-cred, bish! You poor saps keep on laughing while punching Rob Van Winkle in the dick, and I'll enjoy a good pop song whenever I happen to come across it.



Macarena!

I don't understand why did you bold "Breakfast.."?

Either-Or: Sublime or Vanilla Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:26 pm
by steve_Archive
Having never heard the band, I just made a point of listening to "Santeria" by this band Sublime, since there seems to be a consensus that this is their lone "good" song.

You people are fucked. That is some extraordinarily lame and shitty music right there.

Either-Or: Sublime or Vanilla Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:37 pm
by r0ck1r0ck2_Archive
but that's not the question.

the question is who's shittier.

now you've gotta go listen to go ninja or whatever floats the boats of the Ice supporters.

this is one of those when did you stop beating your wife questions.

you'll end up getting the shaft either way.

Either-Or: Sublime or Vanilla Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:37 pm
by Mazec_Archive
steve wrote:Having never heard the band, I just made a point of listening to "Santeria" by this band Sublime, since there seems to be a consensus that this is their lone "good" song.

You people are fucked. That is some extraordinarily lame and shitty music right there.


You are in an enviable position if you've made it this far without having to hear Sublime.

Either-Or: Sublime or Vanilla Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:41 pm
by emmanuelle cunt_Archive
I haven't even heard of the band Sublime. I thought this is going to be a joke poll about sublime things vs. Vanilla Ice.

Either-Or: Sublime or Vanilla Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:39 pm
by dansoderburg_Archive
Mark Lansing wrote:
Red Square wrote:Sublime have little impact on music in the here and now.


I don't know, there are many, many terrible bands around (mostly near colleges) that cop the Sublime bullshit style. Not too many Vanilla Ice clones around. I mean, people woke up and realized Vanilla Ice blew but it's been over 10 years since the sublime guy died and people still eat up that white reggae/mellow surfer douchery with a hemp-crafted plastic spoon.

Either-Or: Sublime or Vanilla Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:51 pm
by Bernardo_Archive
Musically Vanilla Ice may be even worse than Sublime, but the latter is supposed to be a legitimate band, from all I know, which makes their suckitude that much worse. It's a tie.

Either-Or: Sublime or Vanilla Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:27 pm
by Red Square_Archive
dansoderburg wrote:
Mark Lansing wrote:
Red Square wrote:Sublime have little impact on music in the here and now.


I don't know, there are many, many terrible bands around (mostly near colleges) that cop the Sublime bullshit style. Not too many Vanilla Ice clones around. I mean, people woke up and realized Vanilla Ice blew but it's been over 10 years since the sublime guy died and people still eat up that white reggae/mellow surfer douchery with a hemp-crafted plastic spoon.


ack! i never said that!