The drummer in my band plays my blacrolite every week when we're practicing in my basement, and the internal damper just kissing the head is enough to squash the ~400 Hz ringing from the shell.
Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:52 am
by tommy
Chiming in to say the internal mute of an Acrolite and Supraphonic is a great option when the ring is too much. Again, just barely kissing the head. Sounds better to me than a small gel.
Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 6:33 pm
by dontfeartheringo
In my job, I've been supporting one of these drums for months. I gotta say, I'm not normally a DW fan, but this fucking thing smokes.
And, contrary to nearly everything we know about DW drums, they're pretty affordable. You can pick them up used for $450-475 pretty easily.
Black Beauty without the fussiness and the price tag. Get at it, you fucks.
Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 6:40 pm
by dontfeartheringo
Garth wrote: Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:46 am
what you are describing above is like a bouncing-style or gravity-fed mute? It seems like something that could be built-out in a way that would be robust and controllable.
the design in my head would be something that clips to a rim similar to a Sennheiser mic clip and then has a spring or something with controllable tension so that the mute rests on the head but then bounces up upon striking the head, then slowly closes it as opposed to quickly closing it immediately. In my head I'm thinking of how a door at a public office building automatically closes? but obviously this would be orders of magnitude faster - by "slowly" I mean still < 1 second vs the milliseconds that it would dampen from something like a wallet. I think the biggest advantage to this would be for players that like to tilt their toms and sound guys that would like something that mutes the ring out in a more natural-sounding way than a noise gate. This would also keep toms from ringing or having sympathetic vibrations from other sound sources in the room.
Heading to the local 'inventors incubator' or whatever brb
Garth- I was looking back through this thread and don't know I missed this, but this thing sort of already exists!
dontfeartheringo wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 6:33 pm
And, contrary to nearly everything we know about DW drums, they're pretty affordable. You can pick them up used for $450-475 pretty easily.
Yeah, I think they've gone a bit out of vogue. I played a 13" maple snare for years that I bought on clearance for $220. Odd size and goofy throw, but it sounded pretty great.
Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum
Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 8:36 am
by twelvepoint
minor grumble, but it would be nice if more drum manufacturers had 8 lug drums that weren't marketed to the budget demographic. 10 lug snares are always a drag to tune up, have extra pieces and if you have good rims and aren't tuning up to marching drum notes, don't offer more consistent tension around the circumference.
Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum
Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 9:06 am
by penningtron
The iNDE stuff fits the bill! I agree: unless you're going for grindcore tension then the extra lugs can be annoying.
Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum
Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 9:11 am
by dontfeartheringo
twelvepoint wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:36 am
minor grumble, but it would be nice if more drum manufacturers had 8 lug drums that weren't marketed to the budget demographic. 10 lug snares are always a drag to tune up, have extra pieces and if you have good rims and aren't tuning up to marching drum notes, don't offer more consistent tension around the circumference.
I should mention that the DW "True-Pitch" tension rods are fine threaded, which means you have do literally 2x as many turns to get them tightened down. A truly useless innovation.
"Like seating heads on a drum? No? You think it's kinda boring? Well, WHAT IF WE MADE IT TAKE TWICE AS LONG??"
Re: Percussion instrument: The Snare Drum
Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 9:13 am
by twelvepoint
penningtron wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 9:06 am
The iNDE stuff fits the bill! I agree: unless you're going for grindcore tension then the extra lugs can be annoying.
iNDE are nice folks. I wrote to them to see if they had a drop-in throwoff to fit a vintage Gretsch drum of mine and they said no, but they'd consider making one.
Noble and Cooley and Gretsch also have nice 8 lug drums.
twelvepoint wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:36 am
minor grumble, but it would be nice if more drum manufacturers had 8 lug drums that weren't marketed to the budget demographic. 10 lug snares are always a drag to tune up, have extra pieces and if you have good rims and aren't tuning up to marching drum notes, don't offer more consistent tension around the circumference.
I should mention that the DW "True-Pitch" tension rods are fine threaded, which means you have do literally 2x as many turns to get them tightened down. A truly useless innovation.
"Like seating heads on a drum? No? You think it's kinda boring? Well, WHAT IF WE MADE IT TAKE TWICE AS LONG??"
haha
The other thing that stinks about the 10 lug drums, AND MAYBE THIS IS MY OWN OCD, is the 8 lugs are way easier to figure out the "tension the new head from opposite points" rule than with 10.