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DaveA wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:44 am Ardern handled the pandemic and the Christchurch mosque shootings unusually well. At the the time I thought, "Huh, so that's what actual leadership looks like."

Yeah, the death rate over here was actually lower than during a normal year, how about that! Because nobody got the flu either.

Then what happened was, I stared noticing glossy magazines and pamphlets appearing in my mail box with articles by people like RFK Jr. A lot of outside money seemed to be coming in. A lot of American opinions on vaccines. And people started talking in these MAGA-sounding dumbshit soundbites. Suddenly the vaccines everyone were waiting for became a bad thing. And the demonisation of Jacinda grew and grew, until she became AOC, Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren all rolled into one. They called her a communist which is weird because people here have never given a fuck about communists. And all this money kept pouring in, and the number of people talking like American dumbfucks slowly but steadily increased. And the farmers hated her anyway because of environmental reform, and the businesses hated her anyway because of worker's rights, and the real estate tycoons hate her for standing in their way, and all the shit-weasels sniffed the money and sensed an opportunity.

And now today, everyone from supermarket cashiers to security guards are waking up to the news they just voted away their own right to collective bargaining and all their newly-negotiated pay rises and improvements to working conditions won't be happening any more. Our new prime minister calls this "removing unnecessary costs to businesses that are driving up inflation".

There's too much to go into, this is just the very tip of the iceberg of fucking awful things happening in this country right now, there are a thousand and one outrages, but everyone's talking about it and I've never seen people so angry, a lot of people feel like me. I just heard on the news this morning that all money from carbon credit sales, which are supposed to be ring-fenced for climate action is no longer ring-fenced. The money will now be used to help fund tax cuts for property speculators, how about that!

I'm not sure if I mentioned that these tax cuts are going to be back-dated? Yes, they are due to start from a year before this government was elected. Quite a trick, quite a trick.

But we took all this shit for years... and now the fix is in, all the bullshit is plain for everyone to see, we are going to fucking give them hell every day this garbage fire continues and take the country back again in three years, if they even make it to three years.

Anthony Flack wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:51 pm But we took all this shit for years... and now the fix is in, all the bullshit is plain for everyone to see, we are going to fucking give them hell every day this garbage fire continues and take the country back again in three years, if they even make it to three years.

I know this issue may not be on the very top of the list of NZ’s concerns right now, but I’d like to ask:

Are these new gov’t fucks rolling back any wildlife conservation efforts? Should I plan to visit soon before all of your parrots go extinct?

Yes, of course. They chucked in resource consent and clean water management reform for one thing. They'll be cutting regulations for polluting industries while starving the conservation department of funds, you can bet. The libertarians are in charge.

But it IS high on a lot of people's concerns.

Today's comedy:
Leaked cabinet documents reveal their repeal of fair pay agreements disproportionately affects young people, women, the poor, Maori and Pasifika.
Prime Minister: "We promised we would listen to expert advice. We didn't say we'd follow it."

More comedy:
After our new Finance Minister Nicola Willis suggested that higher rates of smoking would help to pay for tax cuts, she has been dubbed Nicotine Willis, and the new Health Minister who approves of this plan, Dr Shane Reti, will now and forever be known to the public as Dr Shame Ciga-Reti. Until the day he dies. And in his obituary. And on his headstone.

And here's another thing. The PM kept talking about not wanting tobacco outlets to be a "magnate for crime". He means magnet. I thought it was a slip but he said it more than once. And then yesterday he he swore allegiance to King Charles and all his hairs.

Ok, those are uh pretty common words. Is he really that dim? Maybe he's a robot.

Fucking magnates, how do they work?

Anthony Flack wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:30 pm And here's another thing. The PM kept talking about not wanting tobacco outlets to be a "magnate for crime". He means magnet. I thought it was a slip but he said it more than once. And then yesterday he he swore allegiance to King Charles and all his hairs.

Ok, those are uh pretty common words. Is he really that dim? Maybe he's a robot.

Fucking magnates, how do they work?

This is HOF posting if I ran the circus, my dizzle. Cheers.

Anthony Flack wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:19 pm Yes, of course. They chucked in resource consent and clean water management reform for one thing. They'll be cutting regulations for polluting industries while starving the conservation department of funds, you can bet. The libertarians are in charge.

But it IS high on a lot of people's concerns.

Today's comedy:
Leaked cabinet documents reveal their repeal of fair pay agreements disproportionately affects young people, women, the poor, Maori and Pasifika.
Prime Minister: "We promised we would listen to expert advice. We didn't say we'd follow it."

More comedy:
After our new Finance Minister Nicola Willis suggested that higher rates of smoking would help to pay for tax cuts, she has been dubbed Nicotine Willis, and the new Health Minister who approves of this plan, Dr Shane Reti, will now and forever be known to the public as Dr Shame Ciga-Reti. Until the day he dies. And in his obituary. And on his headstone.

Looking at the news they’ve basically had no honeymoon period and pretty much pissed off everyone but the weirdos.

Fingers crossed Winney collapses the whole thing within months.

Jesus. For connoisseurs of British Prime Ministers Questions it getting kind of painful to watch now.

Sunak is pitiful, week after week he’s just getting smashed and now Labour are so confident they’re hitting them on their immigration policies two weeks in a row.

Latest polling shows Sunak is less popular than Truss. The loser deserves it. He’s a petty little private school boy that only got the job by being the last sane person standing. I guarantee he has a Musk-like ego so his impending failure will hopefully scar him for life.

Anthony Flack wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:19 pm Yes, of course. They chucked in resource consent and clean water management reform for one thing. They'll be cutting regulations for polluting industries while starving the conservation department of funds, you can bet. The libertarians are in charge.

But it IS high on a lot of people's concerns.

Today's comedy:
Leaked cabinet documents reveal their repeal of fair pay agreements disproportionately affects young people, women, the poor, Maori and Pasifika.
Prime Minister: "We promised we would listen to expert advice. We didn't say we'd follow it."

More comedy:
After our new Finance Minister Nicola Willis suggested that higher rates of smoking would help to pay for tax cuts, she has been dubbed Nicotine Willis, and the new Health Minister who approves of this plan, Dr Shane Reti, will now and forever be known to the public as Dr Shame Ciga-Reti. Until the day he dies. And in his obituary. And on his headstone.

I'd imagine a pack of smokes is big money in NZ, so, while dense, she's not wrong.

Krev wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:53 am

Anthony Flack wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:19 pm Yes, of course. They chucked in resource consent and clean water management reform for one thing. They'll be cutting regulations for polluting industries while starving the conservation department of funds, you can bet. The libertarians are in charge.

But it IS high on a lot of people's concerns.

Today's comedy:
Leaked cabinet documents reveal their repeal of fair pay agreements disproportionately affects young people, women, the poor, Maori and Pasifika.
Prime Minister: "We promised we would listen to expert advice. We didn't say we'd follow it."

More comedy:
After our new Finance Minister Nicola Willis suggested that higher rates of smoking would help to pay for tax cuts, she has been dubbed Nicotine Willis, and the new Health Minister who approves of this plan, Dr Shane Reti, will now and forever be known to the public as Dr Shame Ciga-Reti. Until the day he dies. And in his obituary. And on his headstone.

I'd imagine a pack of smokes is big money in NZ, so, while dense, she's not wrong.

$40 a pack of 20 Marlboros

Which is insanely expensive

Disproportionally affecting the poor of course, so it's a direct transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Of course she's not wrong, it's just quite startling to have them come out and say quite so openly that they intend to use the poor as an expendable resource.

What happened was that they repealed smokefree legislation which their own budget forecast said was projected to result in billions of dollars in lost tax revenue - due to a reduction in smoking - and then said look, that's not happening any more so we will have ALL THIS EXTRA REVENUE to spend on tax cuts. And then tried to say "oh yeah but we're still committed to bringing down smoking rates". While their accounting says otherwise.