Mark Hansen wrote:

SecondEdition wrote:I probably like more US hardcore bands than UK '77 punk bands, but in terms of influence, the Brit punk scene probably wins. Hardcore wouldn't have happened without that scene.

Of course, the original US protopunk scene created the original UK punk scene, so it all comes down - as many things inevitably do - to the first two Ramones albums and all three original Stooges albums.

Plus the New York Dolls, MC5, Velvet Underground, and a few others probably.

British Glitter/Glam had a big influence on all concerned as well, both on the American and British sides.

zom-zom wrote:

charliedon'tsurf wrote: Hell just the LA scene from 77-84 eclipses the entire catalog of music created in England.

Stupidest, wrongest thing I've ever seen posted here.

Mark Hansen wrote:

Skronk wrote:

itchy mcgoo wrote:

Skronk wrote:Dead Boys vs. Dead Kennedys: US

These are both US. Maybe Soft Boys vs. DK

Oops, my mistake. I was thinking of Sham 69 and wrote the Dead Boys.

I like Sham 69. Borstal Breakout and Hersham Boys are great songs. I'd probably pick them over the Dead Kennedys.

I love the Soft Boys as well, but I wouldn't call them a punk band at all. Unless there's some older material I haven't heard.

Throbbing Gristle wins over Suicide because they are still making great music. I think TG may be the one band who I've listened to more than anyone else. Certainly within the Industrial music genre. I never get tired of them.

that damned fly wrote:both of these genres are ear poison to me.

if you put any band from either area onto the stereo i'd bitch until you turned it off.

these musics is painting by numbers to me. the work was done all they had to do was fill in the blanks.

like mad libs. fuck 'em both in the ear.

Skronk wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

Skronk wrote:

itchy mcgoo wrote:

Skronk wrote:Dead Boys vs. Dead Kennedys: US

These are both US. Maybe Soft Boys vs. DK

Oops, my mistake. I was thinking of Sham 69 and wrote the Dead Boys.

I like Sham 69. Borstal Breakout and Hersham Boys are great songs. I'd probably pick them over the Dead Kennedys.

I love the Soft Boys as well, but I wouldn't call them a punk band at all. Unless there's some older material I haven't heard.

Throbbing Gristle wins over Suicide because they are still making great music. I think TG may be the one band who I've listened to more than anyone else. Certainly within the Industrial music genre. I never get tired of them.

I like Sham, but they never hit me as being more than a one album sort of band. DK had the music, the humor, and constantly changed. There's always room for Jello.

Mark, my man, you are on the mark!
D.O.A., Part Two: The Endless Not, and TG Now are amazing. As much as I love Suicide, I gotta hand it to Genesis and Cosey.

SecondEdition wrote:

that damned fly wrote:both of these genres are ear poison to me.

if you put any band from either area onto the stereo i'd bitch until you turned it off.

these musics is painting by numbers to me. the work was done all they had to do was fill in the blanks.

like mad libs. fuck 'em both in the ear.

aren't you a wire fan?

tommydski wrote:Wire formed in 1976.
Go4 in 1977.
PiL in 1978.

I think they count as Punk too.