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The End Of The United Kingdom: Independent Scotland?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:46 am
by Rimbaud III_Archive
I'd take a long, hard look at Migration Watch's agenda too. They're no stranger to controversy.


Article in The Independant

I'm reluctant to see Migration Watch's figures as 'official', given their unashamedly partisan position.

The End Of The United Kingdom: Independent Scotland?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:17 am
by Cranius_Archive
The article also fails to mention the percentage of workers that are coming from within the EU (who we are obliged to let in), their high skill levels, willingness to work or the amount they contribute to the UK economy (something like a tenfold return).

What's this got to do with an independent Scotland?

The End Of The United Kingdom: Independent Scotland?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:06 am
by Earwicker_Archive
Nico Adie wrote:Bob, don't quote the Daily Mail. It is the most xenophobic newspaper produced on these shores.


This is quite funny if you've not seen it.
Man gets all his info about the world, for one month, from nothing but The Daily Mail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrJBVNNhcTc

The End Of The United Kingdom: Independent Scotland?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:17 am
by Nico Adie_Archive
Earwicker wrote:
Nico Adie wrote:Bob, don't quote the Daily Mail. It is the most xenophobic newspaper produced on these shores.


This is quite funny if you've not seen it.
Man gets all his info about the world, for one month, from nothing but The Daily Mail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrJBVNNhcTc


Incredible. Quite scary too.

edit: "Turd Tinted Spectacles". So good.

The End Of The United Kingdom: Independent Scotland?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:26 am
by Cranius_Archive
Nico Adie wrote:
Earwicker wrote:
Nico Adie wrote:Bob, don't quote the Daily Mail. It is the most xenophobic newspaper produced on these shores.


This is quite funny if you've not seen it.
Man gets all his info about the world, for one month, from nothing but The Daily Mail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrJBVNNhcTc


Incredible. Quite scary too.

edit: "Turd Tinted Spectacles". So good.


Very enjoyable. 'Turd Tinted Spectacles' is a phrase I can foresee reusing.

Salut!

The End Of The United Kingdom: Independent Scotland?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:40 am
by simmo_Archive
The statistics are based upon the findings, or should I say opinions, of Migration Watch, an independent watchdog with an admittedly right-wing agenda. You could ask any number of other agencies, governmental or independent, and get massively different answers. Noone can agree on how many immigrants are coming to the UK. Noone can even agree on the definition of an "economic immigrant".

The End Of The United Kingdom: Independent Scotland?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:16 am
by daniel robert chapman_Archive
The Mail On Sunday wrote:
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The End Of The United Kingdom: Independent Scotland?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:19 am
by simmo_Archive
My mistake. Although I stand by my wider point, which is that there's a lot of debate and misinformation pertaining to the number of immigrants coming in to the UK.

The Daily Mail is a vile rag, but that doesn't mean that it won't occasionally have a point. Despite disagreeing with the tone of the article posted, and also being wary of the wider agenda of the newspaper, it does raise some issues that need to be discussed.

daily mail 1-2-08 wrote:According to the MigrationWatch think tank, a culture of benefits dependency is fostering an "underclass of discouraged British workers".


With regards to the above statement, change the term "discouraged" to "lazy" and I think you've just about got it. "Discouraged" makes it sound like everyone's down in the dumps about all these ruddy immig'ants coming over here and stealing the jobs of honest Joes. The reality is that people born here just like whining, and are so spoilt as to think of themselves as above doing the jobs that the immigrant workforce undertake. It was bad enough when the middle class had a sense of entitlement, now it's infected the working class too.

The End Of The United Kingdom: Independent Scotland?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:34 am
by big_dave_Archive
daniel robert chapman wrote:
The Mail On Sunday wrote:
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Next up, Richard Littlejohn explains how fair hair makes you more loyal to the fatherland.

The End Of The United Kingdom: Independent Scotland?

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:36 am
by daniel robert chapman_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:
daniel robert chapman wrote:

So the Daily Mail made up those statistics on immigration, the ONS doesn't actually exist, England isn't crowded, and nobody has lost jobs?


...and I'm not a bigoted fucking Daily Mail reading cunt.