Rick Reuben wrote:El Protoolio wrote:Rick Reuben wrote: You need to have people like me in your world- to give you an escape clause. Then, in 20 years, when you're waist deep in a police state with a broken economy and constant 'terror alerts', you can tell your friends this charming anecdote( out of the view of the telescreens, of course ): "I, El Protoolio, stopped telling the truth about America, but I had a good reason: one person that I didn't like forced to me to shut down my public anger, because if I wrote about it, it put me in agreement with that one person too often. I was more worried about peer pressure retaliation against me if I publicly agreed with that one, lone person, more worried than I was about the future of the whole damn country. I thought micro when the world needed me to think macro. One person made me dilute my anger.
See, my friends- isn't that a good excuse??"
You're fucked in the head dude. Again you make up straw men. I have publicly agreed with you plenty of times. Even today I posted a PM of mine to you saying that I agree with you on a lot of the subjects you write about.
It was never about your opinions, just your methods.
Doesn't disprove my point. And you did say, "Fuck your ideas", did you not? So you went way beyond my methods.
I said it in the context of a larger "fuck you", like "fuck you and the horse you rode in on", or "fuck you very much". Sometimes "fuck you" by itself just doesn't fully convey the right feelings.
Rick Reuben wrote:If you get gun-shy about the political stances you take on this forum because you're reluctant to find yourself on the same side of the line with me, then you are letting your animus for me overrule your duty as a citizen.
This is not a political forum for me. I come here to get away from news and politics. I also continue to contribute when I feel the urge but mostly my feelings on a subject are usually already expressed by someone else. My civic duty does not suffer because I decline to get into political debates on a rock and roll forum, what utter nonsense.
You told me yourself that you read, watch baseball, record, listen to music and maybe you even have sex with girls. Are those not temporary escapes from the hard facts of life? Can I not have my own? Do I really need to discuss in detail every little fucking thing that bothers me? If I did we would be here a very long time.
Also, this is not your forum, it's the forum on the website of a recording studio business. It is not up to you to decide what we discuss and your constant steerage towards whatever subjects interest you most is part of what bugs me so much. Your contributions are out of proportion to what this website is supposed to be all about. No one person should be dominating the discussions all the time but thats what you do. You have not been the only one but you do do it and I would argue you are the biggest culprit. That is why I call you a fascist authoritarian and a bully. Because you act like you are all of those things.
Rick Reuben wrote:Do you want to live inside some bitter world like Scott Chrome Robe, who is letting his politics atrophy on the forum because he's too wrapped up in personality issues to share a thread with me? Or Andrew L.? tmidgett? Does that sound like fun? I guess they think they are making some 'statement' with their behavior, but they're just being petty, and they are giving me 'control' ( whatever that is ) over the political threads on a silver platter.
Good, now you have stumbled upon another reason why I have taken issue with you - your behavior towards people who disagree with you.
I am not that familiar with whatever arguments you had with these two fellows but both Scott and Tim are two of the people here that I am friendly with and interact with socially on a semi regular basis. Both of them are stand up guys who would bend over backwards to help someone. I do not know if I agree with all of their views and I do not care to find out because both of them have shown me nothing but kindness and respect both in person and online. We are all in the same boat, even if we have some differences, and as such I would not hold those differences against them, whatever those differences may.
Because you are such an ass towards them and because I know from personal experience that they do not deserve it I am willing to give most of the subjects of your wrath the benefit of the doubt because your attitude towards them has led me to believe that you are full of shit. If are wrong about their characters how could you be right about anyone else's?
Rick Reuben wrote:The world moves fast and every day wasted discussing nonsense when you'd rather be discussing politics is gone for good.
If I wanted to spend my time immersed in that subject I would be a politician or a political scientist. There is too much in life to enjoy to get caught up spending all my time discussing this crap.
Rick Reuben wrote:If you people want to make it a central point of your attacks on me to be 'Bob has no influence', then prove it- act like I have no influence. Act like I don't exist.
Most of the time I do act that way. For some reason I've had way too much time lately to get caught up in this and I've already wasted enough of it today.
Rick Reuben wrote: Do you think I am going to change my activity in the police corruption thread because you are taking the lead? Hardly. I go to where the action is, and design my position around the facts, not around the fraternity.
I don't think of myself as taking the lead on anything. I am just contributing to the discussion. It would be nice if you took the same stance.
