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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:19 pm
by jurgis rudkus_Archive
cesb wrote:Hey, I remember you, you're that one guy! I remember the Milwaukee posse as putting in quite a strong showing in Chicago back in the day. Sieracki, Manfrin, Hutler, Betzwieser, you, Johnny 13 and many many more...It was an infestation of affability.

Photography for Jackson was James Crump (cover only). Steve did quite a bit of touchup work on the Jackson cover photo, there were a lot of hairs, smudges, etc. to be removed. Steve's straight gig for a while had been doing photo retouching at one of the local color houses for Marlboro ads and the like. Steve also did that text treatment on the Jackson cover. This was a world before photoshop filters, mind you. Toast and Clincher were photographed by a commercial photographer named Bob Hanson who we knew through Pat Daly from Empire Records (which spawned the publication Empire Monthly).

Over and Out photography was mostly by me and my trusty Polaroid 100 series land camera with the pack film.


Well, close... I am that one guy, but from Chicago, worked with RS at T&G circa Over and Out and split a party pad with him here. And anyway all those you mention are much nicer than I...

OK, so there was a team of fabulous artsy types involved with the TARtworks... but CESB had the 'vision thing.' Nice work.

And nice mention of Empire -- I used to read the Monthly (but wasn't it more of a Quarterly, really?) and in fact clearly remember buying "Play to Win" there, on Cicero.

Hoo boy, some dang ol' nostalgia!

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:27 pm
by cesb_Archive
benadrian wrote:Question for Tar.

What's with the Clincher CD issue? It won't read in most CD players.

Also, why does god let good people die before their time.

Ben


To the best of my knowledge, any Clincher CD in existence was probably manufactured 15 years ago. "How come they don't have 'best if used by' dates on cds?" is a better question. Or better still, "How come my NAD 5 disk changer won't read any cd I put into it?" THAT is a good question.

And, if I had to guess, my guess would be that god does not interfere with nature.

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:28 pm
by sunlore_Archive
cesb wrote:Who are we talking about here? The only one's I can think of are Therapy? and RHCP.

The former. Their song was "Knives." I would supply 'Tube footage, but it's all really horrible. (Thinking about it, Therapy? ransacked Jackson a good deal. But it's most obvious on that song.)

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:32 pm
by benadrian_Archive
cesb wrote:
benadrian wrote:Question for Tar.

What's with the Clincher CD issue? It won't read in most CD players.

Ben


To the best of my knowledge, any Clincher CD in existence was probably manufactured 15 years ago. "How come they don't have 'best if used by' dates on cds?" is a better question. Or better still, "How come my NAD 5 disk changer won't read any cd I put into it?" THAT is a good question.


Actually, both my friend and I owned Clincher CDs and bought them new, and they both had issues. I think something is corrupt on the table of contents... maybe someone dropped the stamper at the factory.

It still works sometimes. Worst case I have to skip to track three and scan backwards through the first two songs.

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:47 pm
by burun_Archive
cesb wrote:I remember the Milwaukee posse as putting in quite a strong showing in Chicago back in the day. Sieracki, Manfrin, Hutler, Betzwieser, you, Johnny 13 and many many more...It was an infestation of affability.

And in one sentence, Mike sends me into "Back In The Day" mode.

Whatever happened to Betzwieser, anyhow?

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:57 pm
by sunlore_Archive
Drowning out my downstairs neighbours' Polish rap music with Jackson right now.

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:09 pm
by cesb_Archive
benadrian wrote:Actually, both my friend and I owned Clincher CDs and bought them new, and they both had issues. I think something is corrupt on the table of contents... maybe someone dropped the stamper at the factory.

It still works sometimes. Worst case I have to skip to track three and scan backwards through the first two songs.


My recommendation would be to skip tracks 2 and 4 entirely.

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:30 pm
by Bill Swansea_Archive
cesb wrote:
benadrian wrote:Actually, both my friend and I owned Clincher CDs and bought them new, and they both had issues. I think something is corrupt on the table of contents... maybe someone dropped the stamper at the factory.

It still works sometimes. Worst case I have to skip to track three and scan backwards through the first two songs.


My recommendation would be to skip tracks 2 and 4 entirely.


G7 is a great song!

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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:33 am
by Bill Swansea_Archive
cesb wrote:
sunlore wrote:Question for Tar!

What was the general feeling in the band upon finding out a certain heavy rock band from the early nineties totally stole one of your riffs and put it right at the beginning of their multi-gazillion selling record?

Thanks,
Sunny.


Who are we talking about here? The only one's I can think of are Therapy? and RHCP.


I knew I always had a reason to hate those two bands..
What songs did they rip off? And what were thier crappy results?

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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:41 am
by sunlore_Archive
Walking The King -> Knives

Not that it really matters, but it's blatant.