Ok I have the guitar running in to my mixer. Clean sound is fine. Figured out how to route that through reaper without a whacky slap back sound.

Now I have the amp plugin, and I'm getting hideous, butt puckering noise from it. Even with gain all the way down. Am I too close to my speakers? What's going on here

GuyLaCroix wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:59 pm Ok I have the guitar running in to my mixer. Clean sound is fine. Figured out how to route that through reaper without a whacky slap back sound.

Now I have the amp plugin, and I'm getting hideous, butt puckering noise from it. Even with gain all the way down. Am I too close to my speakers? What's going on here

Can you describe the exact equipment involved and the exact path?

Something might stick out.

Maybe even the virtual amp in play.

numberthirty wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:27 am

GuyLaCroix wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:59 pm Ok I have the guitar running in to my mixer. Clean sound is fine. Figured out how to route that through reaper without a whacky slap back sound.

Now I have the amp plugin, and I'm getting hideous, butt puckering noise from it. Even with gain all the way down. Am I too close to my speakers? What's going on here

Can you describe the exact equipment involved and the exact path?

Something might stick out.

Maybe even the virtual amp in play.

Guitar>cable>mackie 6 channel> reaper> plugin

GuyLaCroix wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:54 pm

numberthirty wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:27 am

GuyLaCroix wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:59 pm Ok I have the guitar running in to my mixer. Clean sound is fine. Figured out how to route that through reaper without a whacky slap back sound.

Now I have the amp plugin, and I'm getting hideous, butt puckering noise from it. Even with gain all the way down. Am I too close to my speakers? What's going on here

Can you describe the exact equipment involved and the exact path?

Something might stick out.

Maybe even the virtual amp in play.

Guitar>cable>mackie 6 channel> reaper> plugin

Got it.

The exact virtual amp?

This is kind of silly, but I wish Reaper had an option to change the effects to be post-fader. It's really hard to use LUFS meters in a useful way without having to put JS volume in front of them. JS Volume is fine, I guess, but the slider is extremely frustrating to use and adding the number in is also wonky: after you punch in the number, you have to click out of the input and then hit save, or else it doesn't stay at the new volume setting. The slider doesn't slide on any scale that is useful. What a totally awful plugin that apparently has no competition. I wish someone would just make a plugin that's just a giant volume knob that moves really slow so you can dial in the volume at a tenth of a decimal.

Anyone have any good solutions? For awhile, I was managing the volume with the last plugin in the chain, but it just seemed weird and against the concept of gain staging to do that. Also most volume controls are kind of shit.

Have you tried this script?



No personal experience, but it seems to be a way to emulate post-fader workflow.

cakes wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:00 pm This is kind of silly, but I wish Reaper had an option to change the effects to be post-fader. It's really hard to use LUFS meters in a useful way without having to put JS volume in front of them. JS Volume is fine, I guess, but the slider is extremely frustrating to use and adding the number in is also wonky: after you punch in the number, you have to click out of the input and then hit save, or else it doesn't stay at the new volume setting. The slider doesn't slide on any scale that is useful. What a totally awful plugin that apparently has no competition. I wish someone would just make a plugin that's just a giant volume knob that moves really slow so you can dial in the volume at a tenth of a decimal.

Anyone have any good solutions? For awhile, I was managing the volume with the last plugin in the chain, but it just seemed weird and against the concept of gain staging to do that. Also most volume controls are kind of shit.

I'm a little confused about what you are trying to achieve. You want a lufs meter on the channel FX inserts or are you talking main buss? Having your FX inserts post fader is going to mess with any dynamic processing inserted. I also have no idea how a lufs meter on a channel is useful at all but I'm not sure I'm following what you are doing. If I ever insert a volume trim I use damage audio track control. It's great.

My master fader is where I'm doing my mastering: compressor > eq > saturator > clipper > limiter > meters

The meters show LUFS, dynamics, etc. I use these to output just under 14 LUFS. The fader on the master track is after the FX chain, so adjusting the master volume is impossible without doing dry runs and adjusting after, which is time consuming. I'd like to adjust the volume before the meters, which I do with JS Volume, but it's a pain in the ass to use.

cakes wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:37 am My master fader is where I'm doing my mastering: compressor > eq > saturator > clipper > limiter > meters

The meters show LUFS, dynamics, etc. I use these to output just under 14 LUFS. The fader on the master track is after the FX chain, so adjusting the master volume is impossible without doing dry runs and adjusting after, which is time consuming. I'd like to adjust the volume before the meters, which I do with JS Volume, but it's a pain in the ass to use.

I think I see, you are trimming to hit your LUFS spec. I usually do all that step in my Limiter stage (gain makeup after limiting) and I never trim my Master Fader, ever, while mixing. That Fader could go away completely and I'd never notice. The JS volume trimmer is indeed kinda trash. DMG Audio Track Control (maybe still free?) will help, you could also use ReaComp, with the ratio at 1:1 and the Tresh not in play to basically use it as a volume control with a more granular fader. Having the FX be post fade is going to fuck with all your comp and limiting, but that could be accounted for, it would just be a lot more back and forth. If you don't have it, Download the Melda Audio Free package of VST. There is a great plugin in there called MUtility. It has a bunch of great tools for being the last thing in a mastering chain including trim volume and has excellent Metering. It will work for you. The free pack of Melda plugins are almost everything anyone really needs, tip to tail and the Metering is spectacular.

Doesn't your limiter have an output level control?

I do this with Ozone's limiter all the time. Get your limiting to sound good, then adjust its output to hit your LUFS target. Master fader always stays at 0.