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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:06 pm
by Skronk_Archive
Again, what the hell are you talking about? I can be offensive in many ways, but I still have manners.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:23 pm
by happyandbored_Archive
Bullshit. Naming a band Rapeman (which by the way, isn't directed at anyone) is completely different.


Not "completely different" or exactly the same. Let's see, a deliberately unfunny joke band name with rape in the title. Surely there is a small similarity there? You don't see it? No? Oh well, how convenient for you to miss that.

Dave asked Rick first, and rightfully Nina got upset. Then, he had the balls to ask her that? Come on.


Rightfully Nina got upset??? But hang on, the comment wasn't even directed at her! By your own logic she shouldn't have found the 'joke' offensive. She *chose* to be offended as an opportunity to launch an attack on Dave. Don't get me wrong, the joke was offensive and perhaps bullshit needed to be called in a less pious way, but really it's nothing compared to the combined total of bile that's been spewed over the last few weeks by a certain nameless cuntbag.

This is all basic classroom bullshit:

Bully attacks.
Victim eventually retaliates.
Bully pretends to be victim.
Everyone takes side of bully.
Cycle goes on.

If you're going to "parody", even shoddily, then make it at least topical, not about fucking rape.


You don't like rape jokes, fine, I'm not too fond of them either. Dave apologised. The fact that you're still taking the opportunity to criticise even after that apology supports my point that no one here is genuinely offended, just indulging in sanctimonious prickery.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:35 pm
by Johnny 13_Archive
I like this new world where Marsupialized is the voice of reason. Someday I will buy him a burger.

Person who responded to me, I will watch your you tube videos and comment after the holiday.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:38 pm
by Skronk_Archive
happyandbored wrote:
Bullshit. Naming a band Rapeman (which by the way, isn't directed at anyone) is completely different.


Not "completely different" or exactly the same. Let's see, a deliberately unfunny joke band name with rape in the title. Surely there is a small similarity there? You don't see it? No? Oh well, how convenient for you to miss that.


I didn't miss anything. You're missing the fact that "Rapeman" isn't directed towards anyone in particular, whereas Dave asking Rick, then Nina. But of course, you'd stick up for that kind of shit.

Skronk wrote:Dave asked Rick first, and rightfully Nina got upset. Then, he had the balls to ask her that? Come on.


Rightfully Nina got upset??? But hang on, the comment wasn't even directed at her! By your own logic she shouldn't have found the 'joke' offensive.


Oh it wasn't?:

big_dave wrote:
Nina wrote:
big_dave wrote:Do you like raping girls from the front or the back?


You know what Dave?

Up until now I have just thought you were a self-righteous smug little prick, but damn boy, you have proven yourself to be an utter piece of fucking shit with that little comment.

Did I say fuck you?

No, I guess I didn't.

Fuck you.


Do you prefer getting raped from the front or the back?



happyandbored wrote:She *chose* to be offended as an opportunity to launch an attack on Dave. Don't get me wrong, the joke was offensive and perhaps bullshit needed to be called in a less pious way, but really it's nothing compared to the combined total of bile that's been spewed over the last few weeks by a certain nameless cuntbag.


She "chose" to be offended? Bullshit. You and Dave have no clue whether or not she might have been in that circumstance, or any one of us. There's a big difference between attacking someone about their beliefs (i.e. banking, politics) and going at them with some inappropriate rape comment.

happyandbored wrote:You don't like rape jokes, fine, I'm not too fond of them either. Dave apologised. The fact that you're still taking the opportunity to criticise even after that apology supports my point that no one here is genuinely offended, just indulging in sanctimonious prickery.


I called him out because of his attitude towards it. "If Nina wants an apology...", how much more insincere can one get?

It's not even surprising you'd come to Dave's rescue because you obviously couldn't give a shit either way. Why would you even post about this, it obvious you couldn't care less about what goes on in this thread.

I'm not sanctimonious about anything. It's called being a decent human being, and caring about a friends feelings.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:06 pm
by happyandbored_Archive
Skronk wrote:I didn't miss anything. You're missing the fact that "Rapeman" isn't directed towards anyone in particular, whereas Dave asking Rick, then Nina. But of course, you'd stick up for that kind of shit.

I'm not missing anything either, hence use of the description 'similar' as opposed to "completely different" or 'exactly the same'. Doesn't matter that it isn't directed towards anyone, it could still and did offend people (not me). There is a parallel there, especially in Nina chosing to be offended by Dave's first use of the joke which *was not directed at her*. You don't see it - fine, moving on...

Oh it wasn't?: [offensive]


No, by *your* logic she shouldn't have found Dave's first 'joke' offensive. The second, sure, but that was obviously the point.

She "chose" to be offended? Bullshit. You and Dave have no clue whether or not she might have been in that circumstance, or any one of us. There's a big difference between attacking someone about their beliefs (i.e. banking, politics) and going at them with some inappropriate rape comment.


Given Nina's generally unpleasant demeanor I think it's safe to assume she was just being a troll. The 'joke' was inappropriate, but wholly deserved. I'm sure Dave meant to hurt her feelings. Perhaps one day she will realise a correlation between her attitude to others and the treatment she receives, perhaps not.

I'm not sanctimonious about anything. It's called being a decent human being, and caring about a friends feelings.


Awwwwwww.

The sides you take speak volumes. You're the kid that stays quiet when the bully strikes and speaks up when the victim retaliates.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:13 pm
by happyandbored_Archive
But of course, you'd stick up for that kind of shit.


I'm not sticking up for the action, I'm criticising the motives and hypocrisy behind the response.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:13 pm
by alex maiolo_Archive
The thread is awesome.

So, who here likes Ron Paul?

-A

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:17 pm
by Skronk_Archive
happyandbored wrote:Given Nina's generally unpleasant demeanor I think it's safe to assume she was just being a troll. The 'joke' was inappropriate, but wholly deserved. I'm sure Dave meant to hurt her feelings. Perhaps one day she will realise a correlation between her attitude to others and the treatment she receives, perhaps not.


Nina, unpleasant? Give me a break. We should take a poll, huh?

happyandbored wrote:
I'm not sanctimonious about anything. It's called being a decent human being, and caring about a friends feelings.


Awwwwwww.

The sides you take speak volumes. You're the kid that stays quiet when the bully strikes and speaks up when the victim retaliates.


The sides I take, right.....

I gotta wear boots around you, Happy. Characterizing Dave a victim, now that's a shovel load. I'll tell you this, Rick is not the one diverting this thread into God-knows-how-many tangents, from the inane, to the downright stupid.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:18 pm
by happyandbored_Archive
By the way, once you all start talking about Ron Paul again, I'll stop posting - not planning on playing the anti-troll and getting in the way again.

As I've said before, I'm not interested in the actual subject, but have to say I find the bitchiness fascinating.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:18 pm
by Mark Hansen_Archive
Johnny 13 wrote:I like this new world where Marsupialized is the voice of reason. Someday I will buy him a burger.


Agreed. Marsupialized has said something quite sensible here.

I think people need to step back, take a deep breathe, and mutually agree to cease with the name-calling and invective. Or, even if its not mutually agreed on, people should stop the name-calling on their own part, and let the jackasses who can't control themselves, ridicule themselves by being bathed in their own stream of shit.

They will eventually stand out and be obvious, if they aren't already obvious.

It's obvious no one is going to change their mind about Ron Paul here. Accept that, and move on.