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Waffle Factors.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:47 pm
by that damned fly_Archive
waffle factors: i say crap.
make a decision and stand by it.
crap/not crap is a game of black and white. no grey areas of waffles.
Waffle Factors.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:48 pm
by DefinitelyNOTtheSWEDE_Archive
I vote Crap.
Waffle Factor 9.25.
Someone had to do it.
Waffle Factors.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:52 pm
by that damned fly_Archive
yeah, i didn't see that coming.
Waffle Factors.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:21 pm
by Angriest_Dragon_Archive
NOT CRAP
These waffles are not only delicious but they help justify one's attempt at going back on their word.
Let's say that there is a band or an album that gets the Crap/Not Crap treatment and you hate it but can see some value to it.
You decide to vote Crap
4 because you do see the potential but don't necessarily get it yet.
Six months go by and you find yourself really liking this album.
That
allows you to justifiably go back and "resubmit" an opinion.
The same goes for the opposite side where you originally loved a record and after two weeks never touched it again.
Waffle Factors.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:54 pm
by Peripatetic_Archive
When you're dealing with music (as most of the C/NC polls were until lately when we started running out of bands and Angriest_Dragon had to start posting threads on bands I've never heard of) you need the waffle factor. Otherwise you couldn't get by with simply two ratings. You'd have to have
10: The crappiest crap that any crapfuck ever crapped out of his crapper.
9: Very very very most crap.
8: Pretty much crap.
7: Crap
6: Meh
5: Not Crap
4: Never ever crap
3: No fuckin' way it's crap
2: Don't even mention crap and [] in the same sentence.
1: Are you kidding me?
When you're dealing with a band, there are too many things to factor in: numerous records, "phases" of the band, whether or not they sucked in the 80s, whether or not Phil Lynott played bass/sang for the band, if they cut their hair when Metallica did, if they knew one of their cousin's friends who was from Seatlle etc. etc. etc. This creates an equation way beyond me that the Waffle Factor takes care of in advance.
Waffle Factors.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:23 pm
by ironyengine_Archive
that damned fly wrote:crap/not crap is a game of black and white. no grey areas of waffles.
So I'm assuming you intend to overturn the very first post in the first first thread of this forum:
His Majesty, Bradley R. Weissenberger himself wrote:But instead of just posting the band name, a colon, and then CRAP or NOT CRAP, I think I've come up with a better way that allows anyone who votes to see the running tally on a particular band or subject.
This method also allows people to discuss, if they choose, why they chose what they chose, and how much trouble they had making the decision (their "Waffling Factor", if you will, see below), and, of course, why they are right, and everyone else is wrong. Note that in order to keep a certain topic towards the top, there has to be a message posted in that topic, a vote alone won't raise it. So, remember to post your opinions!
Waffling Factor: A number from 0 to 10 that states , low to high, your difficulty in making the CRAP/NOT CRAP decision. For ease of recognition, preface your number with Waffling Factor which can be found under the View more Emoticons section of your post.
Waffle Factors.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:42 pm
by Linus Van Pelt_Archive
I think it might be misused a little bit.
If it's used for its original purpose - as quoted above, to show how difficult it was to arrive at a Crap/Not Crap decision, then it's Not Crap. As long as you end up saying Crap or Not Crap, you've done the hard part, and you should be entitled to give voice to your own dissenting opinion.
But if it's used to try to make something seem like it exists between Crap and Not Crap, or, you know, it's Crap, but it's not that Crap, or something like that, then it's Crap. Waffle Factors or no, a Crap vote is a Crap vote, and a Not Crap vote is a Not Crap vote.
Proper use of WF: Not Crap
Improper use of WF: Crap
Waffle Factors: Not Crap
Waffle Factors.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:56 am
by that damned fly_Archive
ironyengine wrote:that damned fly wrote:crap/not crap is a game of black and white. no grey areas of waffles.
So I'm assuming you intend to overturn the very first post in the first first thread of this forum:
His Majesty, Bradley R. Weissenberger himself wrote:But instead of just posting the band name, a colon, and then CRAP or NOT CRAP, I think I've come up with a better way that allows anyone who votes to see the running tally on a particular band or subject.
This method also allows people to discuss, if they choose, why they chose what they chose, and how much trouble they had making the decision (their "Waffling Factor", if you will, see below), and, of course, why they are right, and everyone else is wrong. Note that in order to keep a certain topic towards the top, there has to be a message posted in that topic, a vote alone won't raise it. So, remember to post your opinions!
Waffling Factor: A number from 0 to 10 that states , low to high, your difficulty in making the CRAP/NOT CRAP decision. For ease of recognition, preface your number with Waffling Factor which can be found under the View more Emoticons section of your post.
yes. i do.
Waffle Factors.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:50 pm
by MMMM_Archive
Absolute conclusions are almost always wrong.
I dare say, Athenians, that someone among you will reply, "Why is this, Socrates, and what is the origin of these accusations of you: for there must have been something strange which you have been doing? All this great fame and talk about you would never have arisen if you had been like other men: tell us, then, why this is, as we should be sorry to judge hastily of you." Now I regard this as a fair challenge, and I will endeavor to explain to you the origin of this name of "wise," and of this evil fame. Please to attend then. And although some of you may think I am joking, I declare that I will tell you the entire truth. Men of Athens, this reputation of mine has come of a certain sort of wisdom which I possess. If you ask me what kind of wisdom, I reply, such wisdom as is attainable by man, for to that extent I am inclined to believe that I am wise; whereas the persons of whom I was speaking have a superhuman wisdom, which I may fail to describe, because I have it not myself; and he who says that I have, speaks falsely, and is taking away my character. And here, O men of Athens, I must beg you not to interrupt me, even if I seem to say something extravagant. For the word which I will speak is not mine. I will refer you to a witness who is worthy of credit, and will tell you about my wisdom - whether I have any, and of what sort - and that witness shall be the god of Delphi. You must have known Chaerephon; he was early a friend of mine, and also a friend of yours, for he shared in the exile of the people, and returned with you. Well, Chaerephon, as you know, was very impetuous in all his doings, and he went to Delphi and boldly asked the oracle to tell him whether - as I was saying, I must beg you not to interrupt - he asked the oracle to tell him whether there was anyone wiser than I was, and the Pythian prophetess answered that there was no man wiser. Chaerephon is dead himself, but his brother, who is in court, will confirm the truth of this story.
Why do I mention this? Because I am going to explain to you why I have such an evil name. When I heard the answer, I said to myself, What can the god mean? and what is the interpretation of this riddle? for I know that I have no wisdom, small or great. What can he mean when he says that I am the wisest of men? And yet he is a god and cannot lie; that would be against his nature. After a long consideration, I at last thought of a method of trying the question. I reflected that if I could only find a man wiser than myself, then I might go to the god with a refutation in my hand. I should say to him, "Here is a man who is wiser than I am; but you said that I was the wisest." Accordingly I went to one who had the reputation of wisdom, and observed to him - his name I need not mention; he was a politician whom I selected for examination - and the result was as follows: When I began to talk with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although he was thought wise by many, and wiser still by himself; and I went and tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me. So I left him, saying to myself, as I went away: Well, although I do not suppose that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good, I am better off than he is - for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then, I seem to have slightly the advantage of him. Then I went to another, who had still higher philosophical pretensions, and my conclusion was exactly the same. I made another enemy of him, and of many others besides him.