Can't believe this hasn't been hit yet. (I did the search, bitches!)

I vote Not Crap with a small waffle factor just cuz some of the songs suck.

The good ones seem to kick a fair amount of ass, however.

Kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I'll admit it.

Crap. Whatever way you slice it it's a grown man dancing around in make-up with his arse cheeks showing.

WF: 3 because he had that one song I liked and cuz I guess "the kids" need something to worry their parents with.

full point wrote:Can't believe this hasn't been hit yet.

And I can't believe you hit it.

c'mon, grannies.

nothin' wrong with a grown man wearing makeup, women's lingerie, and fake boobies whilst ripping pages out of the b-i-b-l-e.....

sometimes things are so tasteless they're downright tasty.

Not Crap with a waffle factor of he and his band and all of his songs and videos are awful. So, actually, make that Crap.

The Waffle Factor is probably his appearance in Bowling for Columbine, but I think he benefits in part from lowered expectations on that count.

Marilyn Manson himself is the biggest (but far from the only) Waffle Factor in my Not Crap vote on Nine Inch Nails.


Anyone remember that Onion article about Marilyn Manson going door to door trying to shock people? Ha ha ha, perfect!

Too theatrical in a pompous, burlesque way. So he rips pages out of the bible, eh? THAT'S a really original way to offend people! I wish to cock I'd thought of that. I used to rip pages out of library books. THAT'S offensive.

CRAP.

Linus Van Pelt wrote:Anyone remember that Onion article about Marilyn Manson going door to door trying to shock people? Ha ha ha, perfect!

Yeah, actually that and like one video is my only exposure to Mr. Manson. Because of that article, I've always felt sort of bad for him. Like he's someone that should be pittied. I think I just spelled pittied wrong.

I think I just did it again.

Ripping pages out of library books only offends pompous library-type people.

Unless, of course, you start ripping pages out of "Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars". Then my shit get's all out of whack and we might have to throw the fuck down.

Linus Van Pelt wrote:Not Crap with a waffle factor of he and his band and all of his songs and videos are awful. So, actually, make that Crap.

Linus Van Pelt! You have summed up on my thoughts of this one "Marilyn Manson" so eloquently! Salut!

I think the idea of "Marilyn Manson" worked out much better on paper than in the execution. In 1994 when they first got signed to nothing, I had the pleasure of seeing MM open for Nine Inch Nails, and was completely underwhelmed. They opened with the boat song from Willy Wonka, which was okay, but then proceeded to suck rocks for the next 45 minutes or so. The most offensively stupid bit came when Manson started wandering around the stage moaning with some kind of elephant-trunk fixture hanging off his groin. I could not have been less entertained.

Later on, at a friend's behest, I actually listened to the "Portrait of an Ameriacn Family" album. It was significantly better than what I had seen on the stage! But then the guitarist left, all the songwriting (such that it was) went with him, and they have gone back to sucking more than I can adequately describe ever since. Trent Reznor really knows how to make poop smell good, but he cannot save this crap.

Saw them at a small club in Rochester, NY way back a few years ago and couldn't stop laughing for their whole set.

Are you guys trying to be scary or something?

Hahahaha

CRAP