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Turntable setup question

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:13 pm
by Anthony J_Archive
Quick question-

I've got a turntable, a Technics SL-5200 and I can't hear a damn thing I play on it because I didn't have an amp. I expressed this to my dad when he asked "what would you like for Christmas" and I told him "an amp so I can listen to my record player". I am now the owner of a Yamaha HTR-5830 AV Receiver.

My my question is... is it possible to plug the turntable into this if I don't see any phono inputs? I'm thinking of bringing this back to the store for something less complicated (that doesn't even touch video) because this has way more options than I need. All I want it to do is let me listen to records.

Turntable setup question

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:45 pm
by Rodabod_Archive
Anthony J wrote:My my question is... is it possible to plug the turntable into this if I don't see any phono inputs?


You'll need an additional phono preamp if there is not a dedicated phono /RIAA input for record decks. Not all amps have these.

Phono preamps are fairly cheap. Nad and QED make decent, cheap ones.

Yamaha make some great amps including multi-purpose ones like that one. You may find it easier to swap it for a simpler hi-fi only amp with a phono input as you say.

Turntable setup question

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:56 pm
by Anthony J_Archive
i believe my suspicians have been confirmed. thank you.

Turntable setup question

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:21 pm
by Tom_Archive
Rodabod wrote:s.

Yamaha make some great amps including multi-purpose ones like that one. You may find it easier to swap it for a simpler hi-fi only amp with a phono input as you say.


I have a Yamaha receiver from the 80's. Model # escapes me right now. It's great. I bought it NIB at a local stereo shop for like 200 bucks. It had been sitting in the basement assumed defective for 20 years. A few weeks prior to my visit, someone had taken it out and swapped the jumpers in the back and it worked beautifully. I checked the MSRP and it was around a grand. Score. The remote control is is like THAT big. I could control a space shuttle with it.

Turntable setup question

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:21 pm
by tmidgett_Archive
Tom wrote:
Rodabod wrote:s.

Yamaha make some great amps including multi-purpose ones like that one. You may find it easier to swap it for a simpler hi-fi only amp with a phono input as you say.


I have a Yamaha receiver from the 80's. Model # escapes me right now. It's great. I bought it NIB at a local stereo shop for like 200 bucks. It had been sitting in the basement assumed defective for 20 years. A few weeks prior to my visit, someone had taken it out and swapped the jumpers in the back and it worked beautifully. I checked the MSRP and it was around a grand. Score. The remote control is is like THAT big. I could control a space shuttle with it.


it's true, it's true

the yamaha shit from the 80s is quite good

a friend and i both have too-expensive stereos, and we were just saying that we are pretty sure we could get stereos we like 90% as much for 20% of what our present shit cost us. and yamaha amps were one of the things we thought of as a usable replacement.

Turntable setup question

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:49 am
by TheMilford_Archive
This is a great product... and it actually sounds ok... and I'm a snob"

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... ab=summary

Also for those who would rather build there own, these are good too:

http://www.hagtech.com/bugle.html

or this

http://www.bottlehead.com/et/adobespc/S ... uction.htm

Turntable setup question

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:21 pm
by Anthony J_Archive
TheMilford wrote:This is a great product... and it actually sounds ok... and I'm a snob"

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... ab=summary


This actually looks like it will solve all my problems. Thanks!

Turntable setup question

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:31 pm
by full point_Archive
Would one need the RIAA preamp if they run the turntable straight into the mic pres of a console?

Obviously, the levels can be boosted with the input trim but what about the magic that's imparted by the mentioned RIAA pre?

Is it still needed in this instance?


(I don't have one but to my ears it's not needed............just wondering if I'm missing something.....)

Turntable setup question

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:02 am
by Rodabod_Archive
full point wrote:Would one need the RIAA preamp if they run the turntable straight into the mic pres of a console?

Obviously, the levels can be boosted with the input trim but what about the magic that's imparted by the mentioned RIAA pre?

Is it still needed in this instance?


(I don't have one but to my ears it's not needed............just wondering if I'm missing something.....)


Yes, you need to use an RIAA preamp. It doesn't just offer gain, it also gives significant equilisation (eh. bass boost).

The reason is (in very short form) that vinyl physically works best with the bass rolled off before pressing. The fdrequency balance is maintained by using the inverse of this effect in the form of an eq during playback.

Search for RIAA specifications and it will say something along those lines somewhere.