im probably in the minority here, but i vote NOT CRAP.

i think they are incredibly creative; a breath of fresh air in a genre that seems to wallow in its own mediocrity.

fire away

-wiggins

Not crap in any way. Prowler in the Yard is an amazing album, and the song Mapplethorpe Grey kills me every time I hear it. Some of their riffs are worthy of Slayer, and how can that be bad?

I, too, must vote not crap. They really have an original sound, and prowler in the yard is none stop goodness. I particularly enjoy starbelly.

Hey, NOT CRAP. About a month ago, I picked up Terrorizer, because I remember hearing something by these guys that I liked. This is good stuff.

meh

Being heavy without having any bass = Not Crap.

Terrifyer is THE best record of 2004. Buh Lee Dat.

The sheer number of riffs per song would make them not crap in my eyes, even if I didn't like them.

Alas, I do like them, so a resounding: NOT CRAP.

Phantom Limb is pretty damn amazing. Not really into the vocals, but I never have been. It's been a grower, but it's now really growing on me. Musically speaking, this is an incredibly dense burst of rock, period, no matter what genre people want to call it. Still trying to come up with words to describe it. The album gets better as it progresses.

Scott Hull can turn anything into brutal metal. Not Crap, although not as good as Agoraphobic Nosebleed.