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They're doing a live action version of Charlotte's Web.
I wonder when we'll the live action version of Akira.

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crap.

ok, i was mesmerized by The Incredibles, part of which i saw in the lobby of a florida hotel. But c'mon, I was in orlando.

Ask anybody who had animation cels as a part of their life. CGI is the most emotionless, boring movie technique of all. There's no longer any appeal of "how did they do that?" or "wow, great animation" or "this really brings the story to life!" Just homogenized, ugly pixels... see one and be mezmorized, see more and be bored out of your mind.

The Incredibles was a fantastic movie, and there was plenty of both soul and "how'd they do that?" in the animation. It looked both cartoonish and realistic at the same time with a distinct style, and there were times that the detail and little touches in the animation were stunning.

I'll admit, however, that is one of the very few exceptions to a broad rule.

AAAAAAAARGH wrote:Ask anybody who had animation cels as a part of their life. CGI is the most emotionless, boring movie technique of all. There's no longer any appeal of "how did they do that?" or "wow, great animation" or "this really brings the story to life!" Just homogenized, ugly pixels... see one and be mezmorized, see more and be bored out of your mind.

Someone needs to seek out some CGI movies that are not made by disney.

CGI is a tool. Sure, it fucked up the old Star Wars movies, but that wasn't the technology's fault. Disney/kids movies give it a bad name. Just like the music industry, the largest and most visible media companies pander to the largest section of audience (in the easiest way possible.) And for the most part that means drag-ass boring shit.

garble wrote:

AAAAAAAARGH wrote:Ask anybody who had animation cels as a part of their life. CGI is the most emotionless, boring movie technique of all. There's no longer any appeal of "how did they do that?" or "wow, great animation" or "this really brings the story to life!" Just homogenized, ugly pixels... see one and be mezmorized, see more and be bored out of your mind.

Someone needs to seek out some CGI movies that are not made by disney.

CGI is a tool. Sure, it fucked up the old Star Wars movies, but that wasn't the technology's fault. Disney/kids movies give it a bad name. Just like the music industry, the largest and most visible media companies pander to the largest section of audience (in the easiest way possible.) And for the most part that means drag-ass boring shit.

So... what CGI movies? (Serious question.)

garble wrote:Someone needs to seek out some CGI movies that are not made by disney.

Ehem.





Not crap.

Excellent point, Chapter Two. Those movies contain the single most impressive use of CGI I've ever seen - Gollum.

[envisions Matt Damon's "morphing sequence" in Saving Private Ryan]

Like garble said, it's a tool. It can be used well, and it can look like shit.

My favorite argument against CGI is how people will watch a movie and say "oh, man, that CGI looks SO awful and unrealistic." Yes, because the stop-motion tauntauns in Empire Strikes Back and the blue-screen composites in the Rancor scene in Jedi looked sooooo good.

Gollum worked as well as he did in the LOTR movies because a live actor was still used to do the acting. Gollum was mapped to the slightest movements in Andy Serkis' face during closeups, and this brought the character to life. Compare that to Jar Jar Binks, where Ahmed Best was used merely as a stand-in and for vocal delivery. It wasn't just that Jar Jar was annoying and possibly racist--he looked like a goddamn cartoon.

Oh, and The Incredibles is a fantastic movie. Not crap in the least.

CGI -- NOT CRAP