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outboard a-d converters
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:40 pm
by unarmedman_Archive
i'm thinking about getting either a lucid AD 9624 or an apogee rosetta AD at the 44.1/48 kHz setting. my soundcard only takes up to 48 kHz. does anyone have any experience with these and could recommend one over the other? i figure that the apogee is better quality, but is it that much better than the lucid to be worth the price difference of about $250? also, would there be issues with latency from using two separate a/d converters simultaneously - two from the lucid/apogee, and the others from my soundcard? thanks for the help-
outboard a-d converters
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:13 pm
by Seaside Lounge_Archive
I have heard several people say that they prefer the sound of the Lucid converters over the Apogees.
I doubt you will have a problem with latency.
-chas
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:39 pm
by telefunken_Archive
if you're going to get an apogee rosetta i would look into getting one that already has [or can be upgraded with the kit from apogee for around $275] 96 kHz capability. the digital world is fast changing, and in 2 years time you're going to be left in the dark with only 48 kHz.
maybe all apogee rosetta's are able to do this, but i would check first, you don't wanna be left with obsolete digital gear in 2 years.
just something to consider.
outboard a-d converters
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:26 am
by max_Archive
I've assisted on a session on which we've rented out a Lucid box. Sorry, I can't remember the exact model name.
It wasn't - if it was at all- much of an improvement over the digi 002 that covered the other 8 channels of conversion. We wanted to get a Prism to clock the digidesign thingy but it wasn't available that week.
To me an Apogee did sound better than a 001 did, but that was on the first impression and I'm not very experienced when it comes to digital.
Have you thought about Benchmark? A "digital friend" of mine was very interested in getting one of those to clock his digi 001.
Max.
outboard a-d converters
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:43 am
by hollis_Archive
A couple of years back, when the 001 came out, I did a comparison between its own converters and something that I'd used alot, a Tascam DA30 dat machine. I recorded in the same material into protools and was absolutely shocked at how much difference there was btween the two. The 001 sounded crusty and one dimensional compared to the almost 10 year old converters on the dat machine. I pity anyone who has to record on those things. There should be some kind of law against it.
outboard a-d converters
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:02 am
by ebeam_Archive
max wrote:I've assisted on a session on which we've rented out a Lucid box. Sorry, I can't remember the exact model name.
It wasn't - if it was at all- much of an improvement over the digi 002 that covered the other 8 channels of conversion. We wanted to get a Prism to clock the digidesign thingy but it wasn't available that week.
To me an Apogee did sound better than a 001 did, but that was on the first impression and I'm not very experienced when it comes to digital.
Have you thought about Benchmark? A "digital friend" of mine was very interested in getting one of those to clock his digi 001.
Max.
Were you monitoring through the 002 D/A?
I don't have any experience with any of the converters you mention, but in my experience with cheaper (Gadget Labs) vs. higher end (LynxTwo) A/D/A the cheap D/A tends to mask a lot of the 'improvement' in sound quality when doing various comparisons.
I'm curious what others think of the Lucid vs Rosetta though as I'm thinking about adding one of these to my setup also. I can only do 4 tracks at a time, which is fine for recording myself, but I have friends in about a month to track some tunes and 2 more channels of A/D will give me a lot more flexibility. Right now, I'm leaning toward the Lucid.....
outboard a-d converters
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:54 pm
by mastermind_Archive
Don't know anything about the Lucid converters, but I've heard a lot of others. Personally I think the current Apogee converters are absolute shit - all Apogee's have this midrange "glare" the drives me up the fucking wall.
Really liking the Lavry Blue converters....
trev
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:15 am
by bamse_Archive
I was looking at the Lucid myself a while back. After doing some research I found quite a few people that thought something funky was going on in the high-end of the Lucids, that they sounded good, but weren't true.
Try searching RAP.
I'm also in the market for converters. I was mostly looking at the Apogee Rosetta 800s and the UA 2192. "Midrange glare", huh? hmm...
outboard a-d converters
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:25 pm
by carlsaff_Archive
Speaking as a Benchmark Media Systems DAC-1 owner (probably the best DAC under $1000), I'll be very interested to try their ADC-1 when it's out:
http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/digital/A ... efault.asp
I believe there will be a version w/o mic pres, as well.
outboard a-d converters
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:16 pm
by unarmedman_Archive
hey, i have one more to throw into the mix - the mytek stereo96 converters....i read on some site that they compare favorably to the lavry blue adc's.....any thoughts on that? thanks again for the guidance and suggestions thus far-