first off, what does it have to do with punk rock? i hear NO similarity. perhaps thats because the punk i listen to is the louder punk, like bad brains, the exploited, dri, discharge. but even so, early punk rock like the uk subs sounds NOTHING like, say, joy division. similarly, people always claim that new wave grew out of punk and again i hear no similarity.
and also, isnt the term "post-" kind of a highbrow/high-society/high-culture term? doesnt this kind of clash with the "punk ethos," whatever that is? i doubt that anyone living in anarchist communes uses the term "post-"anything....
im confused, wtf is " post-punk" ?
2Effigies, Raygun, etc.
No.
BClark wrote:isnt the term "post-" kind of a highbrow/high-society/high-culture term?
No.
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im confused, wtf is " post-punk" ?
5I bet Interpol think they don't suck sheep balls.BadComrade wrote: I bet Interpol call themselves a post-punk band
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im confused, wtf is " post-punk" ?
6thanks comrade, I got a good laugh from the kleenex thing.
punk was part of an era. punk now a days is fashion. post-punk, all it really is what came after punk.
that's how I see it.
PUNX NOT DEAD
punk was part of an era. punk now a days is fashion. post-punk, all it really is what came after punk.
that's how I see it.
PUNX NOT DEAD
ben wrote:I tend to get a little cynical in social situations where I see large groups of people enjoying themselves.
im confused, wtf is " post-punk" ?
7Oh... it's just a name.
Ignore it, and just listen to music as it is.
Ignore it, and just listen to music as it is.
im confused, wtf is " post-punk" ?
8Between this and post-punk, I think I’ve come up with a new rule: basically, adding “post” to a style of music just means “with all the fun taken out of it.”
That's not entirely true.
im confused, wtf is " post-punk" ?
9One thing's for damn sure, many of the bands mentioned in the book Rip It Up And Start Again are not Post Punk. Quite a few pre-date punk, thus making the "post" prefix not possible, and a few, like Human League, were never punk at all.
It's just a name, so it doesn't bother me. I don't find it pretentious. It allows people to distinguish between bands like The Ramones and Wire, who have little in common. It's like calling both The Eagles and Black Sabbath "rock music." It doesn't help anyone.
There is more of an art school component to Post Punk. "Punk Rock" is too broad of a term, so it narrows it down.
What gets on my tit is when we get so far into it that Emo with a screaming singer has to become "Screamo," or a group of three bands gets referred to as "part of the Brooklyn electronic folk punk scene" or some such nonsense. That seems a bit exclusive.
-A
It's just a name, so it doesn't bother me. I don't find it pretentious. It allows people to distinguish between bands like The Ramones and Wire, who have little in common. It's like calling both The Eagles and Black Sabbath "rock music." It doesn't help anyone.
There is more of an art school component to Post Punk. "Punk Rock" is too broad of a term, so it narrows it down.
What gets on my tit is when we get so far into it that Emo with a screaming singer has to become "Screamo," or a group of three bands gets referred to as "part of the Brooklyn electronic folk punk scene" or some such nonsense. That seems a bit exclusive.
-A
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im confused, wtf is " post-punk" ?
10the prefix "post" in reference to "post-punk" is referring to taking certain elements of the punk culture (for lack of a better word) and making them your own. it makes it easier when you think of art movements like impressionism and post-impressionism, etc. where "post" just refers to a new interpretation of an existing art form/sound/scene/culture/whatever.
you can certainly hear the punk elements in bands like joy division, pil, mission of burma, devo, and the b-52s if you try, can't you? what punk bands did was push the boundaries of what was going on at the time musically, so it makes sense that "post-punk" continues to push these boundaries but even further, thus sounding less and less like what had become "traditional punk". they don't have to play fast and loud, they can be slow and stripped down, the guitar riffs don't have to make sense, they can use synthesizers, drum machines, etc.
and personally, i think the way fred schneider casually belts out on "planet claire" is more aggressive than any of your exploited garbage.
you can certainly hear the punk elements in bands like joy division, pil, mission of burma, devo, and the b-52s if you try, can't you? what punk bands did was push the boundaries of what was going on at the time musically, so it makes sense that "post-punk" continues to push these boundaries but even further, thus sounding less and less like what had become "traditional punk". they don't have to play fast and loud, they can be slow and stripped down, the guitar riffs don't have to make sense, they can use synthesizers, drum machines, etc.
and personally, i think the way fred schneider casually belts out on "planet claire" is more aggressive than any of your exploited garbage.