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shithole. McMansionville

i lived there for a few years while in high school.

(chesapeake actually, but right next door)

the best thing about Virginia Beach is mini-golf and seafood, and even the seafood isn't that great.

I'd be surprised if most of the housing built between 1970-1990 hasn't crumbled into dust. I can't think of a place with shittier construction practices.

John W. wrote:Worth a look?

no, and

mr.arrison wrote:the best thing about Virginia Beach is mini-golf and seafood, and even the seafood isn't that great.

fact.

Settled.

It was just interesting to me... I was looking at a list of the top 50 cities (by population) and Virginia Beach was listed. Never really thought of it as a big city really -- never even thought of it period, come to think of it.

mr.arrison wrote:shithole. McMansionville

i lived there for a few years while in high school.

(chesapeake actually, but right next door)

the best thing about Virginia Beach is mini-golf and seafood, and even the seafood isn't that great.

I'd be surprised if most of the housing built between 1970-1990 hasn't crumbled into dust. I can't think of a place with shittier construction practices.

I love the fact that much of McMansionville in the Norfolk/Hampton Roads/Va. Beach overlooks the breathtaking vista of... the James River ghost fleet. Serves those whiny red-state bitches right to have to wake up each morning to the spectacle of years of jingoism rusting downstream into their oyster-farming estuaries in the Chesapeake Bay.

Some of those ships were cool, though. The floating atomic-age-bachelor-pad NS Savannah and 1960s Jetsons-futuristic spacecraft/missle tracker USNS Hoyt Vandenberg were both laid up there at some point. IIRC the Savannah is still in town slated for a blasting and repainting-- should be a sight to behold by summertime.

I agree about the shitty builder-home construction going on there. I experienced that shit in San Antonio, too. Military towns will tolerate the ugliest, barracks-looking shitboxes.

I disagree about the seafood. We get Va Beach seafood here in Richmond, only two hours away by refrigerator truck, and I'll put Crab Louie's in my neighborhood up against (the good) Phillip's anytime.

I lived in virginia beach for almost 20 years until I moved to Norfolk last October.

It's not a bad town to live in. Pretty safe, I never really had a problem finding something to do. Everything is a little too spread out for my taste.

Why anybody would want to visit as a tourist boggles my mind. There are much nicer, cleaner beaches most places south of us on the eastern seaboard.

But yeah, save your money and go to a nicer beach with more interesting people. And if you choose to come here anyway hit me up and I'll grab a beer with you and give you the run down on what there is to do.

Foldyourarmsandsaynah wrote:I lived in virginia beach for almost 20 years until I moved to Norfolk last October

what's the steak place in Norfolk where you grill your own steak?

Marsupialized wrote:

Foldyourarmsandsaynah wrote:I lived in virginia beach for almost 20 years until I moved to Norfolk last October

what's the steak place in Norfolk where you grill your own steak?

What the fuck is the point of going to a restaurant AND COOKING YOUR OWN FOOD?

Mark Hansen wrote:

Marsupialized wrote:

Foldyourarmsandsaynah wrote:I lived in virginia beach for almost 20 years until I moved to Norfolk last October

what's the steak place in Norfolk where you grill your own steak?

What the fuck is the point of going to a restaurant AND COOKING YOU OWN FOOD?

It was way cheaper than a regular steak place, I think I paid like 8 bucks for a nice thick filet. Plus it was kinda fun, my friend had just gotten off an aircraft carrier after like a year at sea or some shit....we had some navy chicks there and had a good time grilling the steaks up and drinking beer. It's just like a silly date place, so you can say 'remember when we went to that steak place and cooked our own steaks? That was fun!'

I loaded mine up with way too much garlic, I remember clearly the taste as I was barfing it all up later that evening outside some cowboy line dancing bar I found myself kicked out of.

FuzzBob wrote:I agree about the shitty builder-home construction going on there. I experienced that shit in San Antonio, too. Military towns will tolerate the ugliest, barracks-looking shitboxes.

I disagree about the seafood. We get Va Beach seafood here in Richmond, only two hours away by refrigerator truck, and I'll put Crab Louie's in my neighborhood up against (the good) Phillip's anytime.

Phillips imports most of their seafood from Southeast Asia now. There aren't many things living in the Chesapeake as the oxygen supply in the entire bay can barely support even barnacles. I would suspect that the same is true for most Restaurants that are claming "Fresh Seafood from the Chesapeake" etc..

As far as the shitty home construction, many areas in both Va. Beach and Chesapeake were built in areas equal to or below sea level. Retrofitted swamps turned into subdivisions... Virginia Beach builders generally stopped using perimeter poured concrete foundations for housing around 1978 or so. Hurricane bolts are also not used. So basically you have thousands of houses sitting in swamps on cinder block piers with nothing bolting them to the foundation. If the sea levels were to rise, or if a Katrina caliber hurricane came, all of Virginia Beach would basically get washed out to sea.

It's also filled with white, young right-wing Bush-loving Christians who are usually in the Navy. Just look at 2004 election maps. Virginia probably would have gone for Kerry if it wasn't for the entire Norfolk/Virginia Beach region.

I can't believe that when I lived there good shows came through the area, but they did.