Hi people,

I can't afford cool analog equipment so I use cubase for recording. i'm new with recording so forgive my stupid question, i know I could of searched the net for the answer but I prefer asking here cause I know people have good taste in music.

I am using a tr707 as a drum plug-in and I would like to add effects to give it an industrial sound. I want the drums sounding similar to bands like Big black, Swans, Killing Joke ect

my question is...what sort of effects would these bands use for the drums? like reverb ect



cheers

The guy I play with has some sort of Yamaha drum box and successfully gets abrasive/craziness with a Boss Metalzone.

I run my drum machine through a distortion box. I tried doing that through a fuzz box(big muff), but they change the envelope of the drums to much, so I decided not to.

Maybe a little bit of a phaser or a flanger. that could be interesting too.

hey!

Most effects will work in some way or the other with your drum machine. the tr 707 has separate outputs for each sound, doesn't it?

I've had success with Fuzzes (adds a weird "whoomph" sound between beats that can sound really cool), overdrives, delays (for cool syncopation), etc. light amounts of effect will let you keep some clarity when using distortion or overdrive.

I really love running my make shift drumbox (a nord2's drum sounds through a phrase looper) through my octave pedals. It really can bring out some low end in the sound and often alters the overall tone in fascinating ways.

since you're new to this, feel free to experiment as much as possible. there aren't really any rules, so you shouldn't worry about giving yourself rules when you use it. play around and have fun. you can't hurt a drum machine by running it through a pedal, so see what sounds good for you and your music.

have fun!



Faiz

what kerble said

an MXR Blue box through a drum machine sounds amazing. total sputtering nintendo noise

If you are using cuebase try the quadra fuzz plug in it is based on the old piaia hardware craig Anderton fuzz. There are drum presets (like drums of doom) then mess arround with it. It should be in your free steinberg BST effects.

If you have a small amount of cash to spend check out the ohm boys plugins. There are lots of free pliugins as well as cycling plugs.

I don't use Cubase, but it's made by Steinberg, right? Or at the very least is it VST compatible? If so, check out this site:
http://www.gersic.com/plugins/index.php?daCat=-1
In my opinion, it's probably the best database for free VSTs around. The best part is, if a link doesn't work, you can leave a comment about it. So long as you're not a dick in your comment, Tom will bend over backwards to fix the link, even going so far as to host the plugins himself. Maybe not a big deal, but its a great help and a great resource.
Otherwise, I'd say run the drum machine like so:
707 --> Big Muff (to taste) --> Amp with spring reverb (to taste) --> close and far mics --> DAW. You can't go wrong like that.

kerble wrote:since you're new to this, feel free to experiment as much as possible. there aren't really any rules, so you shouldn't worry about giving yourself rules when you use it. play around and have fun. you can't hurt a drum machine by running it through a pedal, so see what sounds good for you and your music.

oh! btw, you can hurt a speaker/amp with a drum machine, though. often times, the distortion or overdrive will kill the bass response a bit, and so you'll crank it to compensate. when you turn the fuzz off, you could, in theory, send a really sharp sound to your speakers on accident, so keep an eye on the volume when amping. flat response stereo monitors will be able to handle the frequencies easier, but you don't need those to make sounds that work.

there are a couple of "drum machine" threads in both the tech room and crap/not crap. I'd recommend searching "roland," as it will give you better results here than "drum" or "machine".





Faiz

i used to like a really high regeneration short delay.

but anything can be cool.
oh, and i'm new jack enough to put the whole mess threw a flanger once and a while.