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Extending Grounding Wire?

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:51 pm
by eephour_Archive
I'm thinking of moving my stereo receiver and all my rca cables are long enough but my turntable's grounding wire is not. Is there any way I can extend the wire?

Extending Grounding Wire?

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:04 pm
by tarandfeathers_Archive
Get another piece of wire that's long enough, solder the two wires together, heatshrink over the join and put a spade terminal on the end.

Extending Grounding Wire?

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:06 pm
by eephour_Archive
sounds doable, thanks.

Extending Grounding Wire?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:58 am
by ktone_Archive
Find a full length piece of coat hanger wire. Gold or black paint only. No white paint. Measure it to be sure it is greater than 1.23 mm dia. Scrape the paint off each end 40 mm back until it is shiny. Bend one end into a little ? that fits your stereo screw. Solder the TTable wire to the other end - silver solder only please. Use heat shrink - black only. This won't work with copper or aluminum wire although I've heard good things about 16 AWG nichrome but it won't take solder.

Now. before you connect your TTable, bend the coat hanger like this:

__/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\___

with the the TTable end at 20 mm intervals increasing to 55mm intervals at the stereo.

The surface skimming high frequency electrons need to slow down a bit through the sawtooth so they arrive at the same time as the center flowing low frequency electrons. You'll hear a transparancy and clarity like nothing you've ever heard. Interestingly the length of the original TTable wire is insignificant.

If you really want to fully do this right you need to do the same thing with the power cable to the TTable. Only you need to put each piece of coathanger inside a piece of garden hose for safety. Only the cheap bright green hose will work though. The heavy stuff somehow has a detrimental capacitive affect. Remember, silver solder only.

Lemme know how it sounds.

Extending Grounding Wire?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:04 pm
by HCT_Archive
you might want to watch that, it's been known to cause "heavy electricity".

Extending Grounding Wire?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:16 pm
by Rodabod_Archive
HCT wrote:you might want to watch that, it's been known to cause "heavy electricity".


This really needs a link.

Extending Grounding Wire?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:03 pm
by HCT_Archive


thank you.

Extending Grounding Wire?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:07 pm
by megathor_Archive
ktone wrote:Find a full length piece of coat hanger wire. Gold or black paint only. No white paint. Measure it to be sure it is greater than 1.23 mm dia. Scrape the paint off each end 40 mm back until it is shiny. Bend one end into a little ? that fits your stereo screw. Solder the TTable wire to the other end - silver solder only please. Use heat shrink - black only. This won't work with copper or aluminum wire although I've heard good things about 16 AWG nichrome but it won't take solder.

Now. before you connect your TTable, bend the coat hanger like this:

__/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\___

with the the TTable end at 20 mm intervals increasing to 55mm intervals at the stereo.

The surface skimming high frequency electrons need to slow down a bit through the sawtooth so they arrive at the same time as the center flowing low frequency electrons. You'll hear a transparancy and clarity like nothing you've ever heard. Interestingly the length of the original TTable wire is insignificant.

If you really want to fully do this right you need to do the same thing with the power cable to the TTable. Only you need to put each piece of coathanger inside a piece of garden hose for safety. Only the cheap bright green hose will work though. The heavy stuff somehow has a detrimental capacitive affect. Remember, silver solder only.

Lemme know how it sounds.


ktone,
no offense, but this sounds like faulty physics to me. I take it your scheme is an attempt to delay high-frequency compnents thorough skin effect so they arrive at the same time. Why would they arrive at a different time in the first place? Yes, skin effect will cause the wire to exhibit higher series resistance for high-frequency components, increasing the effective RC delay. But making the wire longer by zig-zagging it only exacerbates this. For ground connections, shorter is always better for every purpose I can think of.

Extending Grounding Wire?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:12 pm
by Rodabod_Archive
Megathor, ktone makes the funnies.

Extending Grounding Wire?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:23 pm
by megathor_Archive
Rodabod wrote:Megathor, ktone makes the funnies.

:oops: Shit, I've read more ridiculous stuff than that in some audiophile forums. I should have known better, cause I've read the forum enough to know that ktone knows what he's doing.