Arguably the two most influential groups of the 1970s. Polar opposites, mirror images, minimalist pioneers, wonderfully complementary if listened to back-to-back.

Whom do you prefer? Who looked cooler? Whose influence was more profound and lasting? Or do they both suck moose cock as far as you're concerned? Impossible. Choose. Explain.

[The second poll option should be "Die Mensch-Maschine." Scheiße.]

Both the Ramones and Kraftwerk are very overrated, in my opinion.

Damn. Interesting poll.


Not really too hard, though.


The Ramones. In terms of overall quality, they had more good albums than Kraftwerk ever did.

HOUSTON_M wrote:Both the Ramones and Kraftwerk are very overrated, in my opinion.

not very much but a little bit, yes.

Piasek wrote:

HOUSTON_M wrote:Both the Ramones and Kraftwerk are very overrated, in my opinion.

not very much but a little bit, yes.

Yep

Whether or not you think their critical and popular reception was/is deserved, no Ramones and no Kraftwerk = no music as we know it since 1976. "I am not responding but posting in yawning superior blase mode" should've been a voting option, apparently.

ctrl-s wrote:Whether or not you think their critical and popular reception was/is deserved, no Ramones and no Kraftwerk = no music as we know it since 1976. "I am not responding but posting in yawning superior blase mode" should've been a voting option, apparently.

I'm sure there are many more like me who managed to thrive and create
despite never having heard them.

Kraftwerk.

If you remove Ramones from history the hole isn't as large as the one left by removing Kraftwerk. Kraftwerk invented electronic pop and had a huge effect on Industrial music. If based on modern sampling alone Kraftwerk invented just about everything James Brown didn't.

Plus, I'm not all that big a Ramones fan. German bias also kicking in.

thyklopth: Great, and your point is?

ubercat: I tend to agree (voted Kraftwerk by a hair for similar reasons, though I could've just as easily gone with Ramones on nostalgic/sentimental grounds) but: no Ramones, no punk rock. Just sayin'.

ubercat wrote:If you remove Ramones from history the hole isn't as large as the one left by removing Kraftwerk.

I love Kraftwerk, but you out yo damn mind.