Okay folks, name your ideal social/economic system.

Come election day, we all make decisions that often go against our principles as a practical way of expressing our franchise.

This isn't about bitching about the glaringly obvious flaws in Representative Democracy and Market Capitalism.

My idea system would be a Libertarian Socialist or Syndicalist system, were both the economy and the politic are democratised.

Ideal system:
Everyone has a hot robot.
Every morning the hot robot gently wakes you up and asks what you'd like to do for the day.
You tell the hot robot, jump on her back and away you go...

That's my idea social system.

Anything you do, any system you put in place will be corrupted.
Humans are greedy, hoarding pigs. Nothing can be done.

Tom wrote:Ideal system:
Everyone has a hot robot.
Every morning the hot robot gently wakes you up and asks what you'd like to do for the day.
You tell the hot robot, jump on her back and away you go...

That's my idea social system.

I like that one too, but replace "Robot" with "girl" and I'm there.

Trust me... these robots will be better.

Tom wrote:Trust me... these robots will be better.

Metallivag?

Marsupialized wrote:Humans are greedy, hoarding pigs. Nothing can be done.

This is true, in a sense. To put it another way, a human, just like any other animal, is driven to accumulate resources and seek competitive advantage (in the genetic rather than economic sense) over his or her peers. Ideologies that ignore this hardwiring are doomed. So I have a difficult time answering this question as I'm not certain of the relevance of most governance ideologies to actual decision-making human beings.

I suppose something that looks a lot like the U.S. only more socialist: higher taxes that become almost punitive as income rises, guaranteed access to health care, education achievement standards and implementation that are fully funded and guaranteed available, and a limited but strong central state that can set intellectually sound energy, environmental and defense policy.

But then again, you get back into the whole greedy, hoarding pigs argument when it comes to the bureacracy. So which ideology taps our natural tendency to accumulate advantages for the betterment of our neighbors? I sure as shit don't know. Get involved locally and go forward.

Christopher J. McGarvey wrote:

Tom wrote:Trust me... these robots will be better.

Metallivag?

Would go see.

a goddamn republic.

i've seen this 'libertarian socialist' idea bandied about with a lot of my friends, but i find it not only impractical but also ideologically strange. I guess it's the new ultra-liberal form of government, a way to "have your cake and eat it too" if you want to be a libertarian without the conservative connotations. To me it just looks like an oxymoron.

An island where I can hunt humans for sport. If the population gets too high, we will have a lottery to see who gets stoned. I'll also have a pigs head on a pike and a conch shell to blow on before I make a decree.