When John McCain Drops Out
1Still not worried. Kerble your enthusiasm.
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Rick Reuben wrote:Of course he will. And you'll continue to tell us that he doesn't take corporate money and PAC money.Minotaur029 wrote:He will raise $100 million in June alone.
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Rick Reuben wrote:Is this a denial that Obama takes corporate and PAC money?Minotaur029 wrote:It's the small donors that helped Obama blow her corporate fundraising advantage out of the water.
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polifact.com (a service of the St. Petersburg Times/CQ) wrote:Jen Psaki, campaign spokeswoman, defends the distinction between federal and state lobbyists. "Federal lobbyists lobby the federal government on legislation that Senator Obama has jurisdiction over - which is why he does not accept their money. State lobbyists lobby the state government on legislation that Barack Obama has no jurisdiction over - which is why he accepts their money."
The other big element in Obama's stand against the world of special interests is his refusal to take PAC money. While this may be noble, experts say it isn't much of a sacrifice.
Massie Ritsch, Communications Director for the Center for Responsive Politics, says it is not particularly risky to eschew PAC money since it "amounts to only about 1 percent of the money in any presidential campaign. So you're not leaving a whole lot of money on the table when you say 'I'm not taking PAC money.'"
polifact.com wrote:Obama acknowledges that his pledge has loopholes.
He told the Associated Press recently that he swims "in the same muddy water" that corrupts the political system. "My argument is not that we're perfect," he says. "I suffer from the same original sin of all politicians, which is we've got to raise money. But my argument has been and will continue to be that the disproportionate influence of lobbyists and special interests is a problem in Washington (and) in state capitals."
polifact.com wrote:The nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics has a broad definition of lobbyist money that includes contributions from spouses of lobbyists. By its reckoning, Obama has received $115,163 in money from lobbyists based on data released on March 20, 2008.
Is it possible that Barack Obama took "a dime" from someone connected to oil and gas lobbyists? Yes. But it looks as if Obama took good-faith measures not to accept money from current lobbyists for any industry, including oil and gas. For these reasons, we find his statement Mostly True.
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Rick Reuben wrote:Are you confirming that corporate money and lobbyist money is in Obama's till?Minotaur029 wrote:So there you go.
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