bad in a good way?

i like the sound of most cheap/shitty drum machines. i own a BOSS DR-670 and unfortunately it doesn't really apply to this category. i like my drum machines to sound cheap and fake, not realistic which is what it seems BOSS has tried to do in recent years. the older models, like most of roland's earlier output (such as the ridiculously unprogrammable cr-68 ), seem to be what i'm looking for. i'm just wondering if the ea community has any suggestions.

references? eh...suicide, most early electronic dance music, blank dogs, julie ruin.

thanks.

As far as scoring the Suicide drum machine sound, get a really awful early 70s no-name drum box without the capability to program. Simple tempo switches. They have that particular sound.

I agree, I love a kind of bullshit-sounding drum machine. Modern drum machines are meant to replace drummers...a drum machine should sound like a machine and the programmer should exploit the legs up a drum machine may have over a real drummer (never tires, won't try heroin, etc.).

I use a drum machine, a Roland TR-707. I also have an E-Mu Drumulator because I wanted the Big Black drum sound. Both have solid drum sounds, but they are still organic.

I would recommend a TR-707 if you don't mind step programming. The Drumulator is kind of finicky, but once you get the hang of it, it is a cool machine. They are both fairly reasonable. Just don't throw them around too much, they very easily need repairs.

A FUCK TON OF DRUM MACHINE RELATED INFO CAN BE FOUND HERE.

If you can stand not having programming ability, you can always use the pre-made drum loops on really inexpensive keyboards.

I have been using one of those Realistic Concertmate (Radioshack, isn't it?) keyboards that have 100 drum loops (I believe mine is from the late 80's or early 90's). I run it through a distortion pedal and into an amp. The majority of the drum loops are terrible, but it allows you to control the tempo and has a "fill-in" button for, you guessed it, drum fills. For me, it satisfies that "good-crap" sound.

While I'm sure someone else already does this, it's sort of my idea. So you shouldn't even consider it, because that would only make me less original than I already am.

That's some great advice, Steve.

I have a Roland 707. The sounds on it are amazing. I have read the manual about 15 times, and I still don't know how to program it. However it makes a great sound module.

I have a hacked Yamaha DD-7.

It has 100 Pre-fab beats and the 4 pads. The drum sounds are atrocious but mine (now) has a break-out box with 32 pins soldered directly to the IC that controls the thing. You can connect the pins with alligator clips to cause anything from distortion to complete pattern breakdown and general chaos. Mostly useless but tons of fun.

Next I want to do the same to a Yamaha DD-5
They basically work the same but the sounds in the DD-5 are more like those of the early Casiotone models (think white ones with ROM cards)

gideon wrote:I have a Roland 707. The sounds on it are amazing. I have read the manual about 15 times, and I still don't know how to program it. However it makes a great sound module.

What exactly is your programming problem? I use it as my main drum machine, so I can probably give you some advice should you want it.

There's a lot of sample CDs/downlaods that cover all of the major vintage machines and some of the rarer ones. I've played around with quite a few of the original machines and for my money I'd rather have them sampled into an MPC or similar. Unless the original hardware had some totally unique function or process (which only a few did IMHO), I'd go for drive space over physical space any day with this subject.

For a while I just built my own kits in reason, and programmed it not like a real drummer.

I'd love to get a compu-rhythm in the future, but I've fund with almost any drum machine it's possible to get non-normal sounds if that's what you want.

Ben

This is what you are looking for

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