You know what I mean: you're reading the dainty little leaflet for a new CD/LP that you just bought, noticing the engineer and studio details, acknowledgements, etc, when you come across all this type of inner-circle shout-out crap:

Jeremy Birrell is an octopod without hair, but damn he makes fine coffee. Lindsey K should be proud of him.

...or...

The Euclid Crew should keep buying those baseball hats.

It makes me feel like I'm at a dinner party and I don't know anyone, nor how to relate to their conversations. I paid for your album, so why would I want to read your private cryptic messages to your friends in the liner notes? I don't get it. You want to give someone credit? Fine, go ahead and thank them, but save the cellphone text-messaging shit for your Nokia.

I bet this pisses nobody else off as much as it does me.

If I ever bothered to read that shit, then maybe I'd have an opinion.

I think it can be funny, and I don't see any harm in it.

Let's go to Sizzler!

It's worse in rap albums.

And they always thank god for some reason. He must be all like "Yo, deity gotsta reprezent for my homies, dogg". And etc.

I vote not crap.
I would think it would make my Millenium to get an inside shout.

So at least SOMEONE is happy each time people do this.

stewie wrote:You know what I mean: you're reading the dainty little leaflet for a new CD/LP that you just bought, noticing the engineer and studio details, acknowledgements, etc, when you come across all this type of inner-circle shout-out crap:

Jeremy Birrell is an octopod without hair, but damn he makes fine coffee. Lindsey K should be proud of him.

...or...

The Euclid Crew should keep buying those baseball hats.

It makes me feel like I'm at a dinner party and I don't know anyone, nor how to relate to their conversations. I paid for your album, so why would I want to read your private cryptic messages to your friends in the liner notes? I don't get it. You want to give someone credit? Fine, go ahead and thank them, but save the cellphone text-messaging shit for your Nokia.

I bet this pisses nobody else off as much as it does me.

well, maybe it's a little different these days now that we have the internet and communication is so easy.

but i think in the pre-internet days when people had to order records through catalogs it would be cool for the people in the know and for the people that don't know, I don't think they care because they have their own inside jokes.

Crap. I hate in jokes always. Crap crap crap crap crap crap crap.

I agree that it's alienating in such cases as the first two examples mentioned, however, I also agree that it's a very heartwarming feeling to be in the know or to be the mentionee.

Perhaps a better way would be to make sure that the in joke is so universal that joe anybody could glaze over it and appreciate it, such as:

Thanks to Jon Bronsen for making the coffee every morning.

and meanwhile it would still mean something to Jon and the rest of the band who maybe know some inside info that changes the situation entirely, such as:

Every morning, when Jon made the coffee, he threw in some extra-strength laxitives. The rest of the band was in on the joke. The drummer wasn't, and thus became the butt of it.

I'm no expert, but that would seem to be okay, wouldn't it?

Also, some of you may know that I'm a drummer. I'm not sayin...I'm just saying.