Ol' Dirty Bastard.

(Note that he was in jail when his last two albums were released and didn't have any control over them.)

Crap.

Gimmicky hack-work. 2nd rate beats. Goofy rhymes. Negative points for bilking public aid.

Note: every one in Wu-Tang was allowed one good solo album. I presume that, by contract, every album after that had to suck complete goat ass.

This guy's problems with the law obscures the fact that Wu Tang are fairly interesting.

Crap. Don’t buy Wu Tang’s music unless you want to support a bunch of psychotic thugs. I don’t know of any studios in New York that will even book time for them after the numerous stories…

One guy I knew was working in a small studio on Staten Island where Wu Tang had been recording. They had racked up a pretty hefty bill, and the studio was withholding the reels until the bill was settled. Rather than pay up or settle the matter civilly, Wu Tang showed up one night brandishing guns, holding up the helpless studio staff and demanding their tapes, as if they were robbing a fucking bank for chrissakes.

Someone else told me a story that happened while they were working in another studio within the same facility as Wu Tang. ODB was asleep on the reception couch. The producer sent an assistant to wake him up, as it was time for his vocal or something. Fucking ODB jumps out of his sleep, apparently not knowing where the fuck he is or what’s going on, and starts choking this poor kid, muttering some paranoid drug-fueled shit about how “they’re” coming to get him, before a group of people finally jumped in and broke it up.

It’s hard to be objective about someone’s music or even want to like it when you know they’re a crew of asshole lowlifes. I say CRAP.

umm, are we not talking about music here?

wu-tang are giants. odb's influence is only just beginning to be felt. next thing you're gonna tell me chuck berry was crap because he had cameras installed in his toilet bowl.

as not crap as it gets.

Not crap. "Nigga Please" contains some of the best lines ever.

Ahem:

"I ain't got no problem with you fucking me, but I've got a little problem with you not fucking me."

Again, not crap!

jamesc wrote:umm, are we not talking about music here?

Yes and no. Maybe the rules committee can clear this up, but I believe that music is only one criterion (albeit a fundamental one) in determining a crap/not crap ranking. Considering the other factors of a band/artist’s career is what makes the game challenging and fun.

I will concede that I’ve probably never knowingly heard the Wu Tang’s music for more than a couple minutes at one time, so I don’t really have a handle on that end of things. And I’ve known people whose opinions I respect who have liked their music. My reaction is negative every time they come up because the crap on the other end of the scale is a heavy, stinky load indeed. Again, I say crap because I believe ODB is a despicable human being. Hopefully I won’t get shot at.

as not crap as it gets.

If this is true, your childrens’ future looks bleak.

horsewhip wrote:Not crap. "Nigga Please" contains some of the best lines ever.

Ahem:

"I ain't got no problem with you fucking me, but I've got a little problem with you not fucking me."

That is fucking genius. Wait, let me see if I can come up with the next line: “So if you don’t want to fuck me, I might have to rape you instead. Nigga please. The end.”

I’m voting twice. Crapola.

Oh, now I know who you're talking about. You mean Dirt McGirt ODB!?!

See, I thought you were referring to just an old dirty bastard in general, like John Madden or Mick Jagger, so I voted Crap.

But you are referring to Big Baby Jesus.

Ahhhh, See if I knew that you meant God Unique, things might be different.

But you meant Osiris, or even Ason, as he was at times known.

Well had I known you were referring to Joe Bananas, I am almost certain that I would have voted Not Crap.

Dylan wrote:Crap.

Gimmicky hack-work. 2nd rate beats. Goofy rhymes. Negative points for bilking public aid.

This guy took the words right of my mouth. ODB is EXTREMELY fucking forgettable.