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Vinyl record playing time???

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:35 am
by diego_Archive
Hey.
Me and my band are about to record a 10'' in 2 weeks and I read so many different things about vinyl record playing time that i don't know who to trust anymore.....
I just would like to know what is exactly the record playing time for a 10''?
What i think is that:

45rpm : between 9.5 and 10.5 minutes.
33rpm : between 13 and 14 minutes.
Am I right?

Thanx

Vinyl record playing time???

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:29 pm
by thebookofkevin_Archive
there is no "exact" playing time, and it seems kindof backwards to say you're going to record a 10" and then figure out how much time you have.

it would make more sense to record the music first, and then decide the medium for it to be pressed on, but suit yourself.

the trade off with vinyl is this: the more time you have on a side, the smaller the volume range will be (which usually just means a lower overall volume). some bands prefer to have more music, some bands prefer more dynamics, which is why it differs from record to record.

since i've never gone through the process of pressing vinyl, i havent formed any personal preferences. some folks say 15 minutes on a 12" is pushing it. some people make single-vinyl albums that are 50 minutes total runtime.

if you still don't see why what you're asking is a backwards process, read here for a similarly backwards process.

Vinyl record playing time???

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:39 pm
by matthewbarnhart_Archive
diego wrote:Me and my band are about to record a 10'' in 2 weeks and I read so many different things about vinyl record playing time that i don't know who to trust anymore.....
I just would like to know what is exactly the record playing time for a 10''?
What i think is that:

45rpm : between 9.5 and 10.5 minutes.
33rpm : between 13 and 14 minutes.
Am I right?


Depends on the cutting engineer. There is a list of cutting times on the Aardvark Mastering web site, for a general reference.

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Vinyl record playing time???

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:04 pm
by A vs B_Archive
thebookofkevin wrote:there is no "exact" playing time, and it seems kindof backwards to say you're going to record a 10" and then figure out how much time you have.

it would make more sense to record the music first, and then decide the medium for it to be pressed on, but suit yourself.

the trade off with vinyl is this: the more time you have on a side, the smaller the volume range will be (which usually just means a lower overall volume). some bands prefer to have more music, some bands prefer more dynamics, which is why it differs from record to record.

since i've never gone through the process of pressing vinyl, i havent formed any personal preferences. some folks say 15 minutes on a 12" is pushing it. some people make single-vinyl albums that are 50 minutes total runtime.

if you still don't see why what you're asking is a backwards process, read here for a similarly backwards process.



ha, I knew that'd be my thread

Vinyl record playing time???

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:41 am
by thebookofkevin_Archive
by the time i'm at 120 posts, i'm sure i'll have one similar too =P

Vinyl record playing time???

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:47 pm
by third_Archive
for a club 12" i usually get 9 mins top at 45rpm, 12 1/2 min at 33 1/3
for 10 " again a club record, 6 - 7 mins at 45 rpm 8 - 9 mins at 33 1/3

for an album, i'd say 20 - 22 mins per side is a good length. you get a pretty decent level,hence a good signal to noise ratio.

the numbers above are also dependant on the program content, ie phase, dynamics and frequency content.