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Act: Withholding/not paying tax Where do you stand?
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:00 pm
by curry pervert_Archive
Just curious where people stand on this. I know the idea has been discussed before in other areas but I couldn't find a thread dedicated to it.There seems to be two schools of thought on this1) It's a form of protest2) It's 'responsible citizenship' - the opposite of protest. It's neither anti-government nor anti-tax; rather, Tax Honesty is anti-corruption and anti-terrorist.The following quote is from here.Imagine that you stole $1 million per day starting Jan. 1 of the year 1 A.D.; by the Battle of Hastings (1066 A.D.) you're only 18% through your crime spree. When the Pilgrims land at Plymouth (1620) you've finished 1/4 of your haul. When WWII ends, you've stolen 1/3 the loot. Finally in 5753 A.D. (3,744 years from now) you'd have stolen what Congress steals via its IRS scam each year. The Tax Honesty Primer tells how I walked away from the D.C. al Qaeda.Some further reading here.Could this be the future revolution? Instead of taking up arms etc. everybody just withholds tax and their corrupt game is over? The tax honesty primer above quotes figures of 67 million people who are supposedly doing this.Yes I realise that is a bit grasping at straws/pie in the sky but you never know. Some say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Act: Withholding/not paying tax Where do you stand?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm
by A_Man_Who_Tries_Archive
Tough to C/NC when the two acts listed are so different. Taking context from the first post though, a hefty Crap.
Act: Withholding/not paying tax Where do you stand?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm
by rephophagist_Archive
An idea whose short-sightedness rivals the canon of Ayn Rand. C
Act: Withholding/not paying tax Where do you stand?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm
by ImDADA_Archive
If we all stopped paying our taxes those worst hit would be the people at the bottom. What a shit protest.
Act: Withholding/not paying tax Where do you stand?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm
by NewDarkAge_Archive
lmao
Act: Withholding/not paying tax Where do you stand?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm
by the letter o_Archive
The Guardian published an interesting piece recently debunking Laffer, trickle-down economic theory, etc. It's here...https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2019/jun/06/socialism-for-the-rich-the-evils-of-bad-economicsIt has a section concerning the perception of tax-as-theft which framed it in a way I hadn't really considered before. Here's an excerpt...There is an entire cultural ecosystem that has evolved around the idea of tax-as-theft, recognisable today in politicians talk about œspending taxpayers money , or campaigners celebrating œtax freedom day . This language exists outside the world of politics, too. Tax economists, accountants and lawyers refer to the so-called œtax burden .But the idea that you somehow own your pre-tax income, while obvious, is false. To begin with, you could never have ownership rights prior to, or independent from, taxation. Ownership is a legal right. Laws require various institutions, including police and a legal system, to function. These institutions are financed through taxation. The tax and the ownership rights are effectively created simultaneously. We cannot have one without the other....In the modern world, all economic activity reflects the influence of government. Markets are inevitably defined and shaped by government. There is no such thing as income earned before government comes along. My earnings partly reflect my education. Earlier still, the circumstances of my birth and my subsequent health reflects the healthcare available. Even if that healthcare is entirely œprivate , it depends on the education of doctors and nurses, and the drugs and other technologies available. Like all other goods and services, these in turn depend on the economic and social infrastructure, including transport networks, communications systems, energy supplies and extensive legal arrangements covering complex matters such as intellectual property, formal markets such as stock exchanges, and jurisdiction across national borders. Lord Lloyd-Webber s wealth depends on government decisions about the length of copyright on the music he wrote. In sum, it is impossible to isolate what is œyours from what is made possible, or influenced, by the role of government.It's a good article
Act: Withholding/not paying tax Where do you stand?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm
by total_douche_Archive
Yeah, basically that. All it would accomplish is screw everyone but the ultra-wealthy.I often wonder, however, what the world would look like if we could decide where our taxes go. I'd spend most of it on infrastructure, the social safety net, and education... and the DOD wouldn't get a bloody dime for a good long while. That'd show you the nation's priorities real quick.
Act: Withholding/not paying tax Where do you stand?
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:00 pm
by the_joe_lemur_Archive
tAxAtIoN iS tHeFt
Act: Withholding/not paying tax Where do you stand?
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:00 pm
by curry pervert_Archive
total\_douche wrote:All it would accomplish is screw everyone but the ultra-wealthy.Well, as it stands everyone IS being screwed BY the ultra wealthy. But without tax dollars, they can't run their corrupt govt.Obviously, the most difficult part would be convincing enough people to do it.
Act: Withholding/not paying tax Where do you stand?
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:00 pm
by curry pervert_Archive
Related post:Between just 28 May and 10 June Boris Johnson received 235,500 in œprivate donations, to himself personally, as he prepares to become the UK s unelected Prime Minister.