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Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:49 pm
by Garth
This is the thread where we beg and plead for someone to talk some sense into us when we got bit by the gear lust tick. Conversely could also be reinforcing someone making a good purchase decision. I dunno.

Anyway, I'll start. I'm an unapologetic lover of a lot of 70s and 80s music and have been since...well...the 80s. I want a DX7. Specifically a DX7II-FD as that seems to be about the most highly-regarded (but also 2x as much as a normal DX7).

What say you? PLEASE TALK ME OUT OF IT. I AM AN ADULT DESPITE WHAT MY BRAIN TELLS ME AND I HAVE BILLS.

Re: Gear talk: TALK ME OUT OF IT

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:00 pm
by losthighway
Upon first googling my initial reaction was a very enabling, "Hmmm seems like these go for a bargain price."

But that's not what you're here for..... um the floppy disk could be a problem. It's probably not as versatile or reliable as a modern model.

That's the best I got.

Re: Gear talk: TALK ME OUT OF IT

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:51 pm
by numberthirty
Just to point out that there are options. Maybe think something like them over while dialing the "Want!!..." knob back a notch.




Re: Gear talk: TALK ME OUT OF IT

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:25 pm
by Curry Pervert
Garth wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:49 pm I want a DX7.
Do you want to program your own sounds on it? Because that is a ballache of epic proportions.

Re: Gear talk: TALK ME OUT OF IT

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:40 pm
by Mickey242
The Dexed program will read carts. There are many sound banks out there. If you want FM this is all you need. When I have used Yamaha synths I have always used an editor. Don't buy one, they are all to old to be working correctly and if you don't have an editor you will go insane. Get a D-50 or M1 instead.

Re: Gear talk: TALK ME OUT OF IT

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:57 am
by Garth
I mean why WOULDN'T I want one? Listen to any demo and it's instantly obvious how many 80s sitcoms had their theme songs done on these.

For this, I'm absolutely not opposed to emulation/clone or whatever because yeah, it's more digital out-of-the gate, but I'm not super into ITB or soft-synths if anything ever might have an off-chance of being performed live. I've seen way, WAY too many laptops ruin shows so that's a hard no. No no no no.

But conversely, I'm very PRO using laptops to do the programming and planned on going this route. This has been WONDERFUL for me and the H9 and the SY-300. There's no way I want to try menu-diving on a DX7. Ew.

And that reface option would be perfect probably....except the midi thing to a keyboard kinda blows. And I 100% cannot do mini keys as I fat-finger too much with them.
Mickey242 wrote: Don't buy one, they are all to old to be working correctly and if you don't have an editor you will go insane. Get a D-50 or M1 instead.
This right here (emphasis mine) is the sensible answer for me. I have huge backlog of glitchy vintage stuff that needs to be fixed and I don't need more of that - and I certainly can't make the case that a 35-40 year old synth that had immediate cost-savings baked in would somehow be more reliable than a laptop emulator.

So might be that the emulator ends up being the route I go just to at least have the sounds to play around with in the basement after all. It's extremely unlikely this would ever leave the house and go to the stage anyway.

Ok, thanks everyone, you've talked me out of it - for now!

Re: Gear talk: TALK ME OUT OF IT

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:01 am
by hench
i can vouch for the arturia emulation, and would absolutely recommend softsynth route over an original unit...

Re: Gear talk: TALK ME OUT OF IT

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:08 am
by Garth
hench wrote: i can vouch for the arturia emulation, and would absolutely recommend softsynth route over an original unit...
Sure - this all makes sense. I guess I was thinking it would be getting used live, but honestly...probably not.

Now I just need a computer that's < 10 years old.

Re: Gear talk: TALK ME OUT OF IT

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:04 pm
by biscuitdough
A digital synth is a computer. A 30-40 year old digital synth is a 30-40 year old computer. Fine as a passion project or collectible. Probably even less reliable than a laptop live.

Re: Gear talk: TALK ME OUT OF IT

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:05 am
by dfglv
You've seen the clip from the Brian Eno documentary where he wants to demonstrate some of his DX7 patches and readily discovers that every single one in his own personal studio doesn't work?

Go soft. There are many options, mostly of very high quality. Plogue have just released chipsynth OPS7, which is inexpensive and (frankly) impeccable. Dump it in your VST host of choice, hook up a faderbox, and discover how much more fun and expressive FM becomes when you have a stack of real-time controllers to play with.