implied violence of the herrenvolk movement

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FM dontfeartheringo posted this a few months back when a small beef broke out concerning auto emissions and global warming.
I can't stop thinking about it. Ringo, would you care to elaborate?
I'm not disputing this, I'm asking for more details.
dontfeartheringo wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:08 am Man, maybe you just don't see the implied violence of the herrenvolk movement since you live in California. Maybe you're cool with it.

But living down here in the American Bavaria, these people are stockpiling guns and muttering about violence every single day. It's clear that if we're going to have any meaningful change on policies that decelerate climate change, it's going to have to be done over their dead bodies.

If you're cool with that, then go right on. The rest of us will know how to think of you in the future.

But this January 6th thing is an ongoing movement in the US and there's likely to be no progress towards making the world better and safer for black and brown people, and avoiding climate armageddon, if people are still ok with flexing on capacious emissions and calling anyone who actually cares about this stuff a crying bitch.
Especially today. Wtf.

I brought my gun to the protest, I was the only one with a gun, and then I got scared so I killed some people, am I in trouble?

Shit is looking grim. So much for "implied".

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Teacher's Pet wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:53 pm FM dontfeartheringo posted this a few months back when a small beef broke out concerning auto emissions and global warming.
I can't stop thinking about it. Ringo, would you care to elaborate?
I'm not disputing this, I'm asking for more details.
dontfeartheringo wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:08 am Man, maybe you just don't see the implied violence of the herrenvolk movement since you live in California. Maybe you're cool with it.

But living down here in the American Bavaria, these people are stockpiling guns and muttering about violence every single day. It's clear that if we're going to have any meaningful change on policies that decelerate climate change, it's going to have to be done over their dead bodies.

If you're cool with that, then go right on. The rest of us will know how to think of you in the future.

But this January 6th thing is an ongoing movement in the US and there's likely to be no progress towards making the world better and safer for black and brown people, and avoiding climate armageddon, if people are still ok with flexing on capacious emissions and calling anyone who actually cares about this stuff a crying bitch.
Especially today. Wtf.

I brought my gun to the protest, I was the only one with a gun, and then I got scared so I killed some people, am I in trouble?

Shit is looking grim. So much for "implied".
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tbone wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:58 pm I imagine at some point as a practicality we will all start assuming that this is probably the last thing we gotta mail to some asshole.

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These people's politics are defined by white grievance. Black Lives Matter is the catalyst that has spurred them into restlessness because at their core, their defining belief is "The hell they do."

They believe in a system of laws that they benefit from but are not bound by, but in which people of color are bound by but do not benefit from.

The American police operate as a colonial occupation force and white vigilante mobs will always get a pass from law enforcement except in places like Atlanta and DC where enough of a Black middle class has incorporated political power.

There's so much more to discuss about this, but it just bums me out so much.
tbone wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:58 pm I imagine at some point as a practicality we will all start assuming that this is probably the last thing we gotta mail to some asshole.

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One street over from me, the guy who used to fly 'Trump Train' flags and shit is now flying a stars and bars flag with a machine gun that says something like "liberty or death". And this is in one of Milwaukee's 'crunchy' neighborhoods, granted there's a hold out of old cops and bikers from another era.

How long do we pretend like this is just 'symbolic' or that "both sides" do this or whatever.
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Also, if you're not familiar with the term:
wikipedia wrote:Herrenvolk democracy is a system of government in which only the majority ethnic group participates in government, while minority groups are disenfranchised. Ethnocracy, in which one group dominates the state, is a related concept. The German term Herrenvolk, meaning "master race", was used in 19th century discourse that justified colonialism with the supposed racial superiority of Europeans.
tbone wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:58 pm I imagine at some point as a practicality we will all start assuming that this is probably the last thing we gotta mail to some asshole.

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Though there are clearly some ignorant young rednecks involved, this movement seems to be primarily old, stupid white men. As horrifying as their behavior is, their beloved bastions of liberty (red states) are rapidly becoming majority non-white, and their gerrymandering bullshit is going to lose potency.
We're headed for social anarchy when people start pissing on bookstores.

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losthighway wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:36 pm
Krev wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:24 pm Though there are clearly some ignorant young rednecks involved, this movement seems to be primarily old, stupid white men. As horrifying as their behavior is, their beloved bastions of liberty (red states) are rapidly becoming majority non-white, and their gerrymandering bullshit is going to lose potency.
I like your optimism. I hope you're right.
I certainly hope I'm right, but I'm also sitting here in a bastion of liberalism (or libtardism, cuckery, etc. in their terminology).
We're headed for social anarchy when people start pissing on bookstores.

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Krev wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:24 pm Though there are clearly some ignorant young rednecks involved, this movement seems to be primarily old, stupid white men. As horrifying as their behavior is, their beloved bastions of liberty (red states) are rapidly becoming majority non-white, and their gerrymandering bullshit is going to lose potency.
This unfortunately does not feel like the case here. In fact, our 7 county metro area seems like the only force holding us back from a state full of rednecks; young ones at that. I don't understand how a state that used to be so progressive (relatively, I suppose, but for the Midwest yeah) has backslid into the divide it's in now.

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Krev wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:24 pm Though there are clearly some ignorant young rednecks involved, this movement seems to be primarily old, stupid white men.
Old stupid white men often have a way of raising young stupid white boys, witness the Ahmaud Arbery case and the perps therein. It surprises me sometimes when I see pictures of people who might be associated with this movement and they look much younger than me and I'm only 57. So many of those "Unite The Right" fucks were kids relative to me. Poisoned kids. Pretty sad situation

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