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mr albini vs mr reznor

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:15 am
by stompy
ive been curious about this for a long time. i dont really like mr reznors music (i think he rips off jg thirlwell way too much) but i can respect his hustle i reckon. im curious about this:
A frazzled Reznor saw the last of "Mr. Cheekbones," and enthusiastically took up Martin Atkins' offer to join Pigface in the studio to record vocals on "Suck", for the forthcoming Gub album. "When we put the Pigface thing together everybody was getting involved," Atkins laughingly reminisced, "and I had Trent fly in from Cleveland. (Producer) Steve Albini said, "Aaaah, keyboards, waaargh! But I told him, 'No, it's cool, I want this guy to come out and work on this.' So, Trent came out and very matter-of-factly went and sang and that was that."

But Reznor obviously had a slightly different experience, as he related to Grant Alden in Focus: "That was very unpleasant. Probably the whole Pigface sessions weren't like that, but while I was there Steve Albini was just proving how 'alternative' he is. There's a very vulnerable time when you're offering up ideas, and you're around people who are all trying to make something sound better. Then there's one jerk saying, 'That's the worst idea I've ever heard. No, we're not going to try that.' Getting off on the power, getting off on knowing that he was making me feel shitty. Someone who got pushed into too many lockers in high school."

Atkins candidly admits that the experience probably wasn't the happiest for Reznor. "A producer is many, many things and I like Steve, but there are a lot of things that Steve isn't.. Imagine Steve as a Midwestern foundry worker meets a Yorkshire working class state of mind, portrayed in a Pythonesque manner. Without saying, his attitude was, 'Who's this waste of time? Oh you want to do two takes..oh, sure.' His people skills are somewhat lacking, I have to say."
i read something else about steve calling trent a 'primadonna' during these sessions. i gotta be honest, the whole thing sounds fucking hilarious. its definitely gossipy horseshit but im just trying to imagine those two in the studio together. maybe mr albini was a different person in 89 or 90 or so but i cant imagine him telling a band they cant do something! are they being honest?

forgive me if this thread has been made before. i did a search and didnt find much, and ive always wondered about this story!

Re: mr albini vs mr reznor

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:39 pm
by andyman
stompy wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:15 am maybe mr albini was a different person in 89 or 90 or so but i cant imagine him telling a band they cant do something! are they being honest?
You should dig up some of his zine articles. He sounded like an asshole in them.

But honestly, who cares?

Re: mr albini vs mr reznor

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:07 pm
by jfv
I think we were all different people 30+ years ago. I was a teenager, went to church every Sunday, and called myself a republican.

Steve was extremely cool working with my bland rock & roll band last year and that's pretty much all that matters to me at this point.

Re: mr albini vs mr reznor

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:32 pm
by first2letters
andyman wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:39 pm You should dig up some of his zine articles. He sounded like an asshole in them.

But honestly, who cares?
Some of the zingers in this one have been stuck in my head for years. Hilariously acerbic writing despite the many fine ways the author has evolved. And yeah, we were all different people 30 years ago.

Re: mr albini vs mr reznor

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:31 pm
by kerble

Re: mr albini vs mr reznor

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:56 pm
by DaveA
kerble wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:31 pm cold check it.
Jesus H.! Was starting to think no one would have the good sense to reference this. Like y'all joined the forum yesterday.

"Cold check it" = Eternal Not Crap

Re: mr albini vs mr reznor

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:32 pm
by Anthony Flack
One of my favourite classic PRF threads, where everybody dogpiled on Hench because y'all are cunts and Hench effortlessly rose above and schooled everyone on how to be a better person while staying totally cool.

Re: mr albini vs mr reznor

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:41 pm
by ChudFusk
DaveA wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:56 pm
kerble wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:31 pm cold check it.
Jesus H.! Was starting to think no one would have the good sense to reference this. Like y'all joined the forum yesterday.

"Cold check it" = Eternal Not Crap
classy performance by Marsupialized in that thread

Re: mr albini vs mr reznor

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:24 pm
by seby
Making a mental note to post my next thing under “Big Black Remix” for clicks. Warned

Re: mr albini vs mr reznor

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:39 pm
by zorg
The boys must have mended fences along the way, because Steve worked on some drum recordings for The Fragile. That record and everything following sucked a mean dick.

Man I miss threads like that.