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The American Dream

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:18 am
by Gramsci_Archive
"If you are born into poverty in the US," said one of its authors, "you are actually more likely to remain in poverty than in other countries in Europe, the Nordic countries, even Canada, which you would think would not be that different."

BBC Article on US Study of the reality of "American Dream"

I'm interested what our American friends here on EA make of this article and study. No, "Huu Ahh" jingoistic comments, please, but off topic comment regarding favourite cheese etc. are fine.

The American Dream

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:29 am
by sunlore_Archive
Bring me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses...

The American Dream

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:30 am
by Angriest_Dragon_Archive
Thanks, I gots me a new signature line.

lady from Ethiopia talking about America wrote:"What do they ever hope for in Europe? Here they have a law that you can dream to be happy."

The American Dream

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:42 am
by Peripatetic_Archive
So did I.

Gramsci wrote:...off topic comment regarding favourite cheese etc. are fine.

The American Dream

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:43 am
by Gramsci_Archive
sunlore wrote:Bring me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses...


I'm not sure that applies anymore. Have you tried to get a Green Card lately?

The American Dream

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:56 am
by sunlore_Archive
Gramsci wrote:
sunlore wrote:Bring me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses...


I'm not sure that applies anymore. Have you tried to get a Green Card lately?


For a while the States served as an ideal outlet for the European demographic pressure cooker. As of now they are of no use to us anymore...

woa!

The American Dream

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:00 am
by tmidgett_Archive
Gramsci wrote:I'm interested what our American friends here on EA make of this article and study. No, "Huu Ahh" jingoistic comments, please, but off topic comment regarding favourite cheese etc. are fine.


i think this country is a work in progress

y'all have many hundreds of years on us

we're still in that pesky empire-building phase. you know, the one that engenders worldwide fear and hatred and saps the country's resources. we haven't been at it all that long, in historical terms. perhaps once the attempt has failed, we can get on with the job of making this a better place to live.

there are certainly much worse places to live on the planet, but until we realize that forcibly exporting america is not the same thing as encouraging democracy, i'm afraid we're doomed to tread some water.

perceptive: the comment that holding onto the 'american dream' is harder yet than achieving it

The American Dream

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:02 am
by Linus Van Pelt_Archive
Gramsci,

You left out your catchphrase "you yanks". Please edit your post accordingly.

Ciao,
LvP


PS I'm not sure how I'm supposed to vote in the poll.

The American Dream

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:04 am
by Gramsci_Archive
sunlore wrote:
Gramsci wrote:
sunlore wrote:Bring me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses...


I'm not sure that applies anymore. Have you tried to get a Green Card lately?


For a while the States served as an ideal outlet for the European demographic pressure cooker. As of now they are of no use to us anymore...

woa!


You mean "no use" apart from trade, defence -Nato- and holidays?

:wink:

The American Dream

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:07 am
by Gramsci_Archive
Linus Van Pelt wrote:Gramsci,

You left out your catchphrase "you yanks". Please edit your post accordingly.


Ciao,
LvP


PS I'm not sure how I'm supposed to vote in the poll.


Didn't feel like rubbing people the wrong way... for a change.

Re: Poll,
Latte = American Dream TM alive and well
Cabbage soup = Just a dream