where to start with this band can?

I'd say the three essentials are:

Tago Mago
Ege Bamyasi
Future Days

I think Ege Bamyasi is the coolest of the three... that's the one I started with and I was very pleased when I bought it (and am still pleased with it to this day).

Hope this helps,
John

mattw wrote:where to start with this band can?

I would start with Monster Movie and just move forward.
Getting them in order seems to me to be the best way to go about doing it because they get weirder is they go on.

thanks guys. listened to bits of monster movie today- good stuff

Not crap, but not as impressive as many say they are.

I have Future Days, Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi. I didn't buy them, but a friend burned them for me. Anything I really like and listen to, I will buy a copy of. But never had the need to buy these...

I will say, they don't have some of the ecclecticism of other progressive artists -- a trait shared by most of the krautrock sub genre. To many, this lack of diversity and having a "solid sound" is appealing. It's much more like today's rock music, where people have a sound that is rubberstamped across the album. To me, it is boring.

Their music bores me. It goes on and on with the same drum beat and some silly blues based jammy guitar.

There are some interesting ideas, and it's pretty advanced for when they did it... But over-rated. I like Faust the most out of the Krautrock sub genre, but I don't like Krautrock much at all. I think the futurism was done much better by the Zeuhl types, speaking in gross generalizations...

Ok, aside from the fact that the music is not complicated... My tastes are really into the medieval meets future type music -- everyone from Univers Zero to Genesis have this sort of future/medieval thing going on. I think, today, IQ are probably the best at this very contradictory combination.

I think this sound is very much a reflection of today's society, especially in America. We're in the future, with all of our cool technology, and we're in the medieval age with the backwardness of religious ferver. So beyond being cool, the medieval/future sound is a reflection of a reality that is ironic beyond belief.

That said, I am not at all surprised with the popularity of Can amongst the indie rock crowd. That said, it has been my contention for the past 4 years or so that indie rock is 95% crap.

yut wrote:Not crap, but not as impressive as many say they are.

I have Future Days, Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi. I didn't buy them, but a friend burned them for me. Anything I really like and listen to, I will buy a copy of. But never had the need to buy these...

I will say, they don't have some of the ecclecticism of other progressive artists -- a trait shared by most of the krautrock sub genre. To many, this lack of diversity and having a "solid sound" is appealing. It's much more like today's rock music, where people have a sound that is rubberstamped across the album. To me, it is boring.

Their music bores me. It goes on and on with the same drum beat and some silly blues based jammy guitar.

There are some interesting ideas, and it's pretty advanced for when they did it... But over-rated. I like Faust the most out of the Krautrock sub genre, but I don't like Krautrock much at all. I think the futurism was done much better by the Zeuhl types, speaking in gross generalizations...

Ok, aside from the fact that the music is not complicated... My tastes are really into the medieval meets future type music -- everyone from Univers Zero to Genesis have this sort of future/medieval thing going on. I think, today, IQ are probably the best at this very contradictory combination.

I think this sound is very much a reflection of today's society, especially in America. We're in the future, with all of our cool technology, and we're in the medieval age with the backwardness of religious ferver. So beyond being cool, the medieval/future sound is a reflection of a reality that is ironic beyond belief.

That said, I am not at all surprised with the popularity of Can amongst the indie rock crowd. That said, it has been my contention for the past 4 years or so that indie rock is 95% crap.

Whatever happened to this prog rock douche cougar?


CAN........? not crap ever.

glynnisjohns wrote while drunk yet,still is right.Cause seriously, i wasn't gonna' let this guy have the last say on CAN wrote:Well, the drum beat on "Vitamin C" is fucking godhead.

Tago-Mago is brilliant thru and thru.

Malcom Mooney, while not damo had some shining moments.

Anyone ever listen to unlimited edition? There is quite a bit that can be chucked in the bin.But a couple of mooney vocals are quite good.

Even with the crap she is not crap.

same wrote:i've only really listened to monster movie through future days, which seems to be their popular material on this board, and i can't say much for their stuff after that.

Soon over Babaluma is good too, the least-so of their "good" stuff but not at all bad...i believe after that it's crap, not that i've heard any of it myself...but that seems to be the consensus...and i've heard enough to trust it to the extent that i wouldn't buy any later albums without hearing anything first...(well, i'd probably give Landed a shot if i found it in a dollar bin...)

How about this? I wonder why this thread did not show uo when explicitly searched for?

Anyways, as referenced in my duplicate thread, I find them to be not crap, but amazed that they would be referred to in the same genre as Kraftwerk.

rocker654 wrote:Anyways, as referenced in my duplicate thread, I find them to be not crap, but amazed that they would be referred to in the same genre as Kraftwerk.

Kraftwerk started off much more "krautrock" with their first two albums...the association is obvious there...and that's mostly where Kraftwerk's krautrock tie-ins come from...there's still some relation with their "later" stuff (the "real" Kraftwerk) but it's a lot more sutble and much less tangible...

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