similarly, i was baptised as a roman catholic but was out of that bullshit before double figures.

the only reason i ever mention it at all is my godfather is a very cool person. very cool.

Marsupialized wrote:It's weird that they are so crazy bout molesting kids.

Not really, the Church twists their minds with sexual guilt as they grow up, so often a young man joins the clergy to escape any "sinful" feelings he may have, thinking God will solve his problem. All that then happens is that they have a supply of kids to fuck.

Aside from the beauty of Catholic rituals, traditions etc. it is a deeply, deeply dangerous religion, one that really twists and warps the minds of it's adherents until they are as delusional as Matty etc.

As I've said before, criticism like this from me will only reenforce Matty's faith and delusion, as Christians have built a myth for themselves that from their origins they were persecuted - a pile of nonsense-. The more strongly you attack their faith the more it is reenforced, it's an amazing piece of mental gymnastics. The Second Vatican Council tried to modernise the church, but as I'm sure Matty will disagree that anything needed fixing.

Catholicism is about as bad as a religion can get, I'd rank 1st equal with Islam in the dangerous stupidity stakes.

Believing sex is only for procreation automatically makes you a weirdo.





Everyone knows it's also for summoning demons.

Matthew is a stereotypical Catholic? I come from a huge Catholic family and I have to say, that most of my family would be disgusted by a lot of his grandstanding and intolerance. Statistically, a lot of the Catholic population is left leaning (abortion issues aside, which still don't dictate voting practices for most Catholics I know). This is due in part to a lot of Catholics being impoverished Hispanics. The Vatican, at the very least, supports evolutional theory and opposed the Iraq war. I'm a little surprised by you guys today, which is rare. You sound as misinformed as Matthew.

anon wrote:Matthew is a stereotypical Catholic? ... I'm a little surprised by you guys today, which is rare. You sound as misinformed as Matthew.

I would argue that this tolerance is in spite of your and other people's Catholicism not because of it. Moderate religious ideas are in fact more intellectually untenable, as people are ignoring both the teachings of their holy book and maintaining a supernatural view of the universe at the same time. Moderate religious believers are in fact betraying faith and reason.

Harsh, but the truth.

[you don't think people should be killed for not observing the sabbath face]

A succinct yet pithy theory. I wholeheartedly endorse it.

My moms a Catholic. Catholic guilt is a fucking bitch and for that I hope jesus gets buggered with his own flip flop.

My mom will never ask me to go to the shop. She'll put her coat and slippers on and stand by the door looking meek and ask quietly "Do you want anything from the shop?"

Same if she needs a babysitter, or if shes needs anything doing. And I don't mind do anything she asks but I wish she'd flat out ask, I fucking hate the guilt thing.

Fuck cathoholics. Fuck smudging ash on someones forehead for a laugh, fuck giving wine to 10 yr olds, fuck having extra long prayers with call and response sections that I didnt understand as a protestant in a catholic school and fuck all my cousins getting 4 names when I only got 3.

Roger Miller said it, I believe it, and that settles it:

NEW NAILS

There was once a special book
It got changed by fascist crooks
(Save me please for I am weak)

There was once a great idea
Now they water it down to fizz
(Save me please for I am weak)
(Save me please for I'm a sheep)

Well I suppose it's human nature,
But when he said,
Don't make an idol of me
Don't make an idol of me
Don't make an idol of me

The Roman Empire never died
(Save me please I'm not a goat)
It just changed into the Catholic Church
ha ha ha ha
(Dionysis has cloven hooves)
The Roman Empire never died
(Devil horns are not on me, save me I am not a goat)
ha ha ha ha

But when he said,
Don't make an idol of me
Don't make an idol of me
Don't make an idol of me
Plastic idols of me
Plaster idols of me
Don't make an idol of me

He said,
Well I walk the shores of Galilee
(Walk the shores of Galilee)
Where only the Spirit can talk to me

He said,
Well I walk the shores of Galilee
On the desert sands and no one can touch me
(Don't touch me no don't!)

Oh No
Oh No
Oh No
Oh No
What's this?
All these crimes
Committed in my name
Oh, well

I was raised Catholic and am currently working through a lot of my Catholic guilt issues in therapy.

An emphatic NOT CRAP to this poll.

Good thread you've got going here. I currently live in a Catholic stronghold myself, and can support this theory without compromise.

However, if we move the subject of Catholic weirdness from a 'personal' type of weirdness to a political one, it seems to me that the Catholics come out on the less weird end of the scale than many Protestant-based religious denominations in the US.

Ok, you've got the inherent contradiction of opposing birth control and abortion rights while prattling on about saving people in countries whose problems stem largely from overpopulation (see Mother Theresa in India).

But they do not seem to be as overtly malicious as many of the Protestant wackos visible in the media. Furthermore, Catholic groups have generally been opposed to bloody military conflicts, which usually give Southern Baptists a major hard-on.

This is just a little observation, not a defense of Catholicism. In the course of history, the Catholics have proven incredibly destructive, especially in places like Spain, France, and Habsburg Austria. Perhaps they burned off a decent amount of zealotry and bloodlust between the 15-18 centuries, which the Protestants have not quite yet accomplished?