we played with them a few years ago, nice guys, the bass player (i lose his name) asked us if he can play on our bass amp because he broke his own amp just the gig before (that what he said but maybe he just want to play on our MESA 400W...)....nice show, nice guys, not crap!!

Just getting into them myself and wonder why I missed them the before. I like the way they dispense with hecklers as evidenced on the 3rd disk of mcluskyism.

Not Crap!

They are/were a brilliant band. It's a shame they have split up though. The lyrics are the strong point for me - and there sound was quite dirty for that type of band. I think they are described as faux-punk, whatever that means.

Try as I might, I simply cannot understand what the fuss is about. They seem like a 100% bog-standard pop-punk band.

I'd take Group Dogdrill over these chaps, and that's saying something.

What am I missing here?

Adam CR wrote:What am I missing here?

A sense of irony?

Not that i think it's ironic to like them, but they are ironic. If you know what i mean.

I listened to a bit of my bandmates "Mcluskyism"(sp?) on his ipod the other day.

Did they remix/remaster some of the songs from the first record for this? Sounded like it. Personally, although the first record's sonic-value is decidedly low, I really dig it.

I'm a big fan of Falkous' lyrics (I could be wrong on these.......I've never looked):

"keep your kelly clean, my love"
"halfway up the stairs is a good mouse"

the bit about the "number one fruit seller........"

So meaningless it becomes almost biblical in it's "global meaning". NC!

Adam CR wrote:What am I missing here?

Copies of their last two albums.

Adam CR wrote: They seem like a 100% bog-standard pop-punk band.

i can't even begin to understand this statement. That's like saying AC/DC is a bog-standard klezmer band.

MTAR wrote:

Adam CR wrote: They seem like a 100% bog-standard pop-punk band.

i can't even begin to understand this statement. That's like saying AC/DC is a bog-standard klezmer band.

Well, I listened to the most recent record and I'm happy to partially eat my words...or eat all of some of my words, whichever.

The last record seems pretty good, albeit very far from mind-blowing.

A grudging NOT CRAP.

Adam CR wrote:

MTAR wrote:

Adam CR wrote: They seem like a 100% bog-standard pop-punk band.

i can't even begin to understand this statement. That's like saying AC/DC is a bog-standard klezmer band.

Well, I listened to the most recent record and I'm happy to partially eat my words...or eat all of some of my words, whichever.

The last record seems pretty good, albeit very far from mind-blowing.

A grudging NOT CRAP.

I agree about it not being mind blowing... however "Do Dallas" is mind-blowing, especially after the 3rd or fourth listen!

mike