LaSalle bon Dioxide wrote:nihil wrote:LaSalle bon Dioxide wrote:In essence, our conversation convinced me that the lives of millions of people over there are seriously fucked with because a few people want to maintain power.
This statement could easily apply to the United States. This statement could also be applied to many governments. It's nonsense and does not make a point.
For example:
because they are gay they cannot marry...
because they are black they cannot...
on and on...
I agree that there are certain injustices that exist in our society and I agree that our country's foreign policies are oft way off the mark of just, but I think how much a country interferes with the details of people's daily lives, how much the course of their lives is affected, how much of the population is affected and how often, are the issues at hand. Sure, the US does not allow gays to get married. But, we're not carting people off for execution if they dissent those in power. Of course, I am going on hearsay from Iranian refugees and stories I've read in the media. I don't think the people I spoke with had any reason to lie and I believed them.
At least on paper, the disparity of rights between races in this country has been improved drastically in the last 50 years.
You are right, our freedom of speech is well protected. This is unique in the world. But we are carting people off and jailing them, executing them and even torturing them. The reasons why aren't really relevant. The fact that this happens in most societies ("because a few people want to maintain power") is what is relevant.
And I never said that I did not believe the Iranian refugees. I was just pointing out that honesty would dictate that we address the real problem of concentrated power, not just some "evil" country that is the latest target of propaganda.
This countries interference with the details of peoples lifes is in many ways no different than most countries. The only difference is that the deeply rooted system is subtle and smart rather than a blatent bully.