I'm looking for an additional mic to mic my Twin Reverb.
So far I've got a Sennheiser 421 and I wanted to get a condensator mic to mic it with 2 mics.. can you recommand any mic?
I was thinking about getting an AKG 414..

Or should I go for a ribbon mic instead, like the Beyer 160?

I can't spend more than 500 EUR.. (414s go for that on Ebay)..

A related question: Would you recommand me to use a seperate room for the amp, or record everything (drums, amps) in the same room, adding additional room sound to the guitars (guitar also being recorded by the drum overheads..)?

This is probably the most predicatable answer in the history of answering questions, but why not go for the AT4033? You could get on of those and a Beyer M130 for just about the same price as one 414. I like 414's, but I think the 4033 is every bit as good a mic and it's less than half the price. Of course it doesn't have a switchable pick-up pattern, but on a budget, I'd grab a 4033 and a bottle of whiskey, still have saved a good deal compared to the 414 and go from there.
-n

Hmm, looks like those AT 4033 are not so common in Europe, and cost about 399,- EUR..

whoa! I guess that shows you what I know about other countries. Over here you can get them for 200-250 American. Sorry, still a great mic.
-n

n.c. wrote:I'd grab a 4033 and a bottle of whiskey, still have saved a good deal compared to the 414 and go from there.
-n

I'd go for a AT 4050 and a bottle of Oban or probably Talisker whiskey and I'd still have spend less compared to the 414.
A 414 would make sense if you'd have already another C 414, so you could use them for stereo applications.
The 4033 is a very common microphone, at least in the part of Germany where I live.
You can buy them from ebay.de for about EUR 190-220. It has a slight 3-4 kHz boost that can be quite nice for guitars. I find this a bit annoying on vocals.
I'd pick a AT 4050 over a C 414 in most cases - except for drum-overheads maybe.
4050s go on German ebay for about EUR 310-350
Good luck, Max.

HEY,

you can get a 4033 for 317 € at Musicians Gear...

Good luck.

Hmm, I guess I might get an AT-4033 then..
Max, do you have ICQ or AIM?

Grenouille wrote:Max, do you have ICQ or AIM?

I don't even have a computer. I'm using the box at work.

One other thing about micing fender amps....
I've found that it's tricky to get a single close mic to sound good. It's different than a marshall cab where you can stick a 57 in the grill and it sounds good. The open back of the fender cabs always, at least to me, sound better with a mic in the back as well. Or, if you do have the amp in a seperate room, you can move the mics back a bit and get more of the room sound. I've even had decent luck w/ a 57 in front and one in the back too. To me, condensors on guitar amps are just too clean/pristine sounding. Definitely most of the newer LDC mics with all their high end boost make guitar amps sound too thin.
later,
m

funnily enough I use a 421 and a 414 as my preffered mic choices on a guitar cab. Place em both about a foot away almost touching for phase and it's great. You get these rough indistint mids in the 421 and this nice hard clarity, brightness and smooth bottom end in the 421. Blend to taste