Recording piano?

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I may have to record a piano next week, the model will be a Yamaha C4, in a large room. The style was described to me as being jazz-like, but it's not clear yet if it will be mellow stuff or more uptempo / agressive.

I never drecorded a piano this before, so what I'll probably do is set up a lot of mics and try out various combinations, to end up with 4 mics at the most, already including ambience. It's a large studio, so they have a nice collection of mics (at least for brazilian standards), including Km 84s, C451s, B&K 4006 and 4007, Ela-M and U47, plus U87s, C414s, the works. There was also a pzm mic, I forget the model. Not sure they have any ribbon mics, though.

Any kind of setup suggestions are appreciated, including tips on getting good wide stereo (if needed). Thanks!

Recording piano?

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How do you want it to sound ? Sometimes a super accurate left to right spread is too much information in the mix. I recorded my friend a few weeks back doing a piano overdub. I used a Apex ribbon with the gain cranked. The mic was positioned at the treble end of the piano but with the front of it pointing down toward the bass end. I thought it wouldn'tt hear the bass side too well but , the results were totally acceptable. Using a condenser might give you too much top end which is only so useful for jazz piano I would say. Again,maybe we can offer more suggestions if we know what kind of sound you are going for . Good Luck.

Recording piano?

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We have a Yamaha C4 at the studio where I work. I don't particularly like 414's on it, it's fairly bright piano and the 414's make it sound more like a digital/sampled piano. I'm a huge fan of the AEA R88 stereo ribbon fairly close to the harp over the middle of the piano's curve. If you don't have a ribbon, I'd try the u47 similiarly positioned, the KM84's as room mics, and if you need it a pair of u87's over the hammers for more attack.
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Bernardo wrote:I may have to record a piano next week, the model will be a Yamaha C4, in a large room. The style was described to me as being jazz-like, but it's not clear yet if it will be mellow stuff or more uptempo / agressive.

I never drecorded a piano this before, so what I'll probably do is set up a lot of mics and try out various combinations, to end up with 4 mics at the most, already including ambience. It's a large studio, so they have a nice collection of mics (at least for brazilian standards), including Km 84s, C451s, B&K 4006 and 4007, Ela-M and U47, plus U87s, C414s, the works. There was also a pzm mic, I forget the model. Not sure they have any ribbon mics, though.

Any kind of setup suggestions are appreciated, including tips on getting good wide stereo (if needed). Thanks!

Is it a solo performance or in addition to a full band recording?
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Recording piano?

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It'd be part of an ensemble recording, but I think the piano would be the second most important element, next to voice. The section was cancelled, unfortunately, but I'm glad I asked, as I don't think I had ever given any thought on the subject. Thanks, folks, if anyone has more to say in this topic I'm still interested.

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